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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:27 PM
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Santorum On Obama & Abortion:'Almost Remarkable For A Black Man' To Say We Can Decide Who's A Person
Potential 2012 presidential candidate and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) doesn't understand how President Obama could not answer whether a "human life" is protected by the Constitution from the moment of conception: "The question is -- and this is what Barack Obama didn't want to answer -- is that human life a person under the Constitution? And Barack Obama says no. Well if that person -- human life is not a person, then -- I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say, 'we're going to decide who are people and who are not people.'"

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:29 PM
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1. but can a zygote marry a dog?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:48 PM
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9. Let's argue honestly - and I'm pro-choice - but it's no longer a zygote
after eight weeks.

At that point, it becomes semi-human.

That said, most women make the decision to have an abortion within the first two months.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:44 AM
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11. That IS and honest argument. The man said CONCEPTION. Last I checked, conception occurs decidedly
before the 8 week mark, as do many abortions.

And what the fuck are you talking about with the "semi-human?" Jezuz. A spleen cell is human. Nobody argued that a zygote isn't human tissue. Using the words "human" and "person" interchangeably puts you on the same playing field with Mr. Sanatorium. I can't believe someone with the temerity to call for "honesty" would be so thick or disingenuous.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:35 AM
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13. God, people around here are so senstive.
I agree with your point that conception (duh) and most abortions happen before eight weeks.

My point, if you decide to read, is that it's NOT a fetus past eight weeks. Never has been. It's an almost-human... a parasite that will BE human.

What the FUCK are YOU talking about with the organs??? Using a spleen interchangeably with a baby puts you on par with stupidity.

And, I'm still Pro-Choice. You decide what you want to do.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:40 AM
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14. You should try making a cogent argument before wag your finger at people to be "honest"
And if you're going to be bitchy about clinical terms - have a farking clue what you're talking about.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:57 AM
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16. Seems to me there's "human", adjective, and "human", noun.
At the risk of sounding like David-Wynn: Miller, there's a difference. A spleen is human, adjective, whereas a person is a human, noun. A fetus is human, it is a human fetus. But is it "a human", or "a person"? Well, it's more like a fetus. Anything beyond that is a matter of opinion.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:30 PM
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2. And I find it almost remarkable that
the SCOTUS can rule that a corporation is "a person."
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:31 PM
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3. Well if the Supreme Court can do it, why can't the President?
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:43 PM
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4. Santorum is
a %**4!&# @%%&*!#
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:08 PM
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5. like a man who
shoots his wad should have any 'say' whatsoever. He's got a choice....wear a condom or jack off.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:41 PM
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6. I pray like a "Christian"...
...for the day he is caught having kinky sex...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:42 PM
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7. Verily, Mr. Santorum, what's in a name?
Tis a very sticky situation, indeed.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:46 PM
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8. I find it remarkable that no one calls them on the insanity of granting rights to single cells.
Sure, Rick.

This



is the exact same thing as

This




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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:48 PM
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10. It's not "who", it's "when".
And he's the freak with a dead "person" in a jar of formaldehyde on the mantle.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:48 PM
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12. then it's almost remarkable how a conservative Christian can decide if gays are people n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 12:49 PM by alp227
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:45 AM
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15. Hmmmm.......
I'm sitting here asking myself why I give a shit what Rick Santorum has to say. :shrug:
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:58 AM
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17. Congrats, Rick.
I'm pretty used to thinly-veiled racism and Republicans pushing the envelope of good taste, but you've managed to surprise me a little bit there. Well done.
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