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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:03 PM
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Poll question: DU Snapshot Poll: At This Particular Moment In Time...
Are you more focused on, supportive of, and concentrating on...

The 2012 Presidential Election...

Or the Occupy Wall Street Movement ???

Just curious as to where the DU focus is right now.

Me... #OWS

:shrug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:04 PM
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1. The #Occupation. It will shape the 2012 election. It is US voting NOW for a better world.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:05 PM
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2. Truthfully? Staying a) employed and b) sane.
Item b is the reason I'm hanging around DU.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:05 PM
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3. Elections come & go ,Movements change things.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 09:07 PM by orpupilofnature57
This is preventative abolition
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:06 PM
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4. the election offers us a choice between
more of the same, or more of the same only worse. The status quo is unacceptable. OWS offers hope.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:08 PM
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7. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!
:bounce:

:yourock:

:hi:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:07 PM
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5. Neither, really. But I went with option B.
Because I think what happens next with our political system will be godawful, reflective of the fact that politicians don't care about changing anything in a "real, meaningful" way. OWS at least has the potential to change things for the better eventually, even if it is a disorganized mess at the moment.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:36 AM
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29. Where you see a disorganized mess,
I see an organically growing mass. A mass movement filled with the fiery intelligence that brings about cultural revolutions.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:08 PM
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6. Senator Elizabeth Warren. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:09 PM
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8. I'm hoping OWS might have an effect on the outcome of the 2012 election. nt
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:16 PM
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10. It might
In the same way Chicago influenced the election in 1968. As long as OWS is seen as peaceful, and only inconveniencing people who go to the heart of big cities, it will not alienate the vast numbers of clueless independent voters who decide who to vote for the weekend before an election.

If it is successfully used by the Repukes as a tool the way that race riots and antiwar protests were used by Nixon and the Republicons in 1968, then we might not like the outcome.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:23 PM
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11. My hope is that some of the issues that are brought up might
make the other side pay attention and realize what's being done to us/them. Problem is, the media isn't even acknowledging the issues, just the battles.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:27 PM
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14. I hold very little hope
that those who lean towards the tea party will consider the OWS protesters as some sort of messengers. I remember the Vietnam War protests, the mushy middle was more than willing to elect Richard Nixon, with his "secret plan" to end the war, rather than just saying it was time to come home, and save some American lives and treasure.

Why should it be any different this time?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:54 PM
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19. Yeah. I know. :(
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:26 PM
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13. The way they can have an effect, at least one way, is to draw
attention to the money in politics. They can, in each of their towns, list the donations given to candidates by Wall Street, maybe in a full page add, or posters around town, then encourage candidates who are not willing to take Wall Street money, to run against them.

Slogan can be 'is your Representative a Wall Street Candidate?' See here for the answer ... Then ask, 'who do you think this candidate is going to be working for?'

Then issue a challenge to all reps to refuse Wall Street money. Make it a huge issue in this election, make it so that they have to be ashamed, rather than boast as they do now, about taking money from Wall Street.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:11 AM
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27. These are good ideas Sebrina 1 !
Lets make it an issue. "Who owns you?"
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:13 PM
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9. #OWS!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:25 PM
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12. #OWS movement nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:36 PM
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15. Actually neither, I'm focusing on my own mess nt
:-(
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:41 PM
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17. Well... Most Of Us Have To Do That... That's The New Normal...
:shrug:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:49 PM
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18. Yeah, that's true. I'm not doing anything for either but I am paying attention
pretty much equally. I think the occupation is more important though because it's disrupting business as usual. IMO the election is just the same old, same old.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:39 PM
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16. the 2012 presidential election is far less interesting than the 2012 CONGRESSIONAL elections
unless something changes, obama's quite likely to be re-elected.

it's the makeup of congress that is likely to determine the shape of obama's second term.


that said, it's all rather distant in political terms, so i'm more focused on ows.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:57 PM
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20. We need a third choice: the scandals at Penn State.
Dominates the news here in PA.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:58 PM
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22. Convenient, Eh ???
:shrug:

:hi:
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evrstrong Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:01 PM
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24. I just want to get away from it, focus on OWS!
n/t
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evrstrong Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:57 PM
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21. So far, there aren't any races to get very excited about...
but the Occupy Wall Street Movement might just light a fire under some of these politicians arses.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:00 PM
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23. Protection Team...
You flatter me so...

:evilgrin:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:05 PM
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25. OWS! nt
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:07 PM
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26. Keeping the lights on.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:23 AM
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28. If OWS fails...
...our elected officials remain unable to represent us.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:46 AM
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30. Occupy, without question.
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