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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:23 PM
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Could a FOIA request determine if CONPLAN is in effect against OWS?
Could a FOIA request be made to determine if CONPLAN is in effect to combat OWS?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:33 PM
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1. The administration has asserted the power to lie about
the existence of documents requested under FOIA. So no, they would not reveal this if they chose not to. This goes beyond the past Glomar Refusal practice where the government would issue a "neither confirm nor deny" response. All part of that change we hoped we voted for.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:36 PM
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2. What's CONPLAN, might I ask?
:shrug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:53 PM
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3. Wiki says this. Odd.
According to the Washington Post, the United States Strategic Command contingency plan for dealing with "imminent" threats from countries such as North Korea or Iran is formally known as CONPLAN 8022-02. The plan was reportedly completed in November 2003, resulting in a preemptive and offensive strike capability. The main plan involves the preemptive use of tactical nuclear strikes (mini-nukes) on deep-ground rocket/bomb installations, computer viruses, and radar disruption technology.


free dictionary says
Acronym Definition
CONPLAN operation plan in concept format (US DoD)
CONPLAN Contingency Plan
CONPLAN Concept Plan
CONPLAN Concept Of Operation Plan
CONPLAN Concept of Plan
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:56 PM
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4. A lot of info here...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/garden_plot.htm

...

The DoD Strategy for Homeland Defense and Civil Support (2005) defines Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) as, "DoD support, including federal military forces, the Department's career civilian and contractor personnel, and DoD agency and component assets, for domestic emergencies and for designated law enforcement and other activities." It notes that DSCA is also often referred to as Civil Support. There has been discussion in some DoD offices of distinguishing between the two terms: Civil Support as a total force construct with DSCA involving Federal support only and not include the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. But as of 2008 they remained essentially synonymous.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:24 PM
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6. CONPLAN 2502 is designed to put down violent insurrections, rebellions
...and domestic violence. There is no evidence of violence on the part of OWS, except either police violence or the actions of agents provocateurs, or other right-wing infiltrations.

Otherwise, I take it that it would be a blatant act of civil rights violations for local governments to conduct a raid in the middle of the night without warning, a court order, or other legal notice, and use state power to silence speech the power elite doesn't want to hear. This is what the mayors have been doing, deriving some perverse, sadistic pleasure in treating peaceful activists as if they were terrorists.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:00 PM
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5. Sure, in about ten to fifty years. (NT)
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