So...this is how the "justice system" works in this country...

[Ken Burch]

If you fleece your investors, your employees, and the taxpayers out of hundreds of millions of dollars, you probably won't ever be caught.

If you put up a tent in a large city and join with other victims of said fleecing to nonviolently object to it, you'll get teargassed, beaten and arrested.

[FirstLight]

1. sssshhhh!

haven't you already been told that we are not supposed to speak of such things? ...you'll get tased for sure now! BAD Prole!

[AsahinaKimi]

2. The 1%

own the system. Its their toy.. to play with, any way they wish. The Constitution? Bill of Rights? Like the US Flag, God, and patriotism.. that belongs to the Republcians and Teabaggers.


Democrats? Liberals? Independents? Progressives? ...not so much. We are "the enemy".

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. K&R

[doc03]

4. You can legally fleece investors, employers, and taxpayers

out of hundreds of millions of dollars. You can't pitch a tent in a park if there is a law against it without getting arrested. If you plan on a movement surviving and making any change you have to follow the laws or you get arrested, just that simple. You follow the law and get a permit to have a demonstration and exercise your rights. You don't have a right to pitch a permanent camp on private or public property without permission from the land owners..

[Ken Burch]

7. "If you plan on a movement surviving and making any change you have to follow the laws or you get

arrested, just that simple."

:eyes:

So you'd have been ok with 19th Century abolitionists being arrested for defying the Fugitive Slave Act by not sending escaped slaves back to their masters?

You do realize that "the law is the law" is an inherently right-wing and anti-democratic concept, don't you?

This week should have reminded you that the legal system in this country is permanently biased against the people.

[doc03]

10. Teabaggers worked within the system and made a huge

difference, they got the permits and crashed town hall meetings. You camp out for weeks in the middle of a city refusing to obey the law then whine about police brutality when they are forced to do their job and remove you. I attended a local rally supporting the occupy movement, we had a permit for the city park had our rally. The only problem was one apparent teabagger showed up and after getting a couple hundred feet away in the safety of his car he started calling us nuts and socialists. All I have heard from them is a list of grievances but they don't seem to have any coherent demands or solutions. If anything they should be occupying K street or the Mall in DC, the problem isn't the 1% in Wall Street it is the government in Washington that pimp themselves out to Wall Street from the President on down the line..

[Ken Burch]

11. You have to confront Wall Street and make it clear that you are defying Wall Street's power

to have any effects on the political class. Our leading politicians now are totally subservient to corporate power-including our allegedly "Democratic" president.

The only chance of a progressive future is a continued direct challenge to corporate power. What happens in Washington is trivial by comparison. Congress and the White House are just "transmission handles" of the corporocracy at this point.

All Occupy America is going is taking Sinead O'Connor's advice(granted, she was talking about something else, but it still applies):

"FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY!"

You are pretty much calling on those brave young people to go back to the uselessness of conventional politics. Why?

And, seriously dude, you CAN'T call the Teabaggers an example of "working within the system".

Getting massive corporate funding and calling for the assassination of the president(while bringing loaded weapons to your rallies) is NOT "working within the system".

[doc03]

12. The Occupy crowd and the Teabaggers both have their

lunatic fringe. I know some Teabaggers and they are just regular middle class Americans and have many of the same grievances the Occupy movement has only their anger was co-opted by the Republicans and directed againstt the Democrats. I don't blame the 1% it's the bought and paid for government in both parties. The reason the 1% control our government is that they can, it is up to Washington to change the laws. Besides that the places where they carried loaded weapons it was not illegal to do so.

[broiles]

5. Money is speech but tents or not

Even if the tents are a symbol of protest.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Apparently those being arrested aren't being read their rights.

:wtf: I heard some say that they were not read their rights upon being arrested.

[SoutherDem]

8. Backward Socialism

Take from the poor and give to the rich. Private profit, shared risk!

[Ken Burch]

9. Or, as Monty Python sang in the "Ballad of Dennis Moore":

(sung to the tune of the old "Robin Hood" tv theme song)

"he steals from the poor, and gives to the rich,
stupid bitch!"

[Blue Owl]

13. Its all here now letz go spread some FREEDOM goddammit

:sarcasm: