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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 09:56 PM
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Heads up DUers they renamed aspartame to Amino Sweet
http://www.aminosweet.info/benefits/benefits.asp

So if you see Amino sweet ...its aspartame

http://www.naturalnews.com/028151_aspartame_sweeteners.html
they are saying its a "natural sweetener"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 09:59 PM
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:16 PM
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9. I read Natural News...
Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 10:17 PM by CoffeeCat
...and some of it is outlandish--but there are a lot of articles that
are great information. They have some terrific information on vitamins
and foods that are great for you--same stuff that you would read on WebMD.

Yes, there are some things that are out there--but it's not all outlandish,
as some are suggesting.

Also--it is true that there is a new sweetener product with the name Amino Sweet--and it's just Aspartame, correct?

It's not like the article suggests that there are little green men on Mars. It is true that Amino Sweet
is just Aspartame, correct?

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:19 PM
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10. thanks Coffee cat you are correct
I placed other links such as Wikipedia to explain
I hope that is acceptable
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:28 PM
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16. The company that makes Aspartame AGREES!!
Here is a link to the company that makes Aspartame--Ajinomoto. In this
press announcement, they tout Amino Sweet as their "brand of Aspartame".

Aspartame is Amino Sweet. This is a standard rebrand.

I've worked in public relations for big companies, for decades. This is
what companies do. But please people--let's not deny that this company
is engaging in a rebranding effort for Aspartame.

They are. Ajinomoto is now calling Aspartame "Amino Sweet" so the information in the OP was solid.

http://www.ajinomoto-europe.com/en/ap-sweetener.html
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:36 PM
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20. Sorry Aspartame fans the truth is out there


It seems I have upset a aspartame fan

Sorry

NOT
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:06 PM
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35. You're peddling misinformation from a website that's one of the worst offenders on the internets...
the words naturalnews and truth don't exist in the same universe.

Enjoy your woo.

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:18 PM
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39. Before you try to discredit information try a better tactic
like reading the information and seeing if it is accurate


things in this world is not black and white

if I followed someone telling me which websites to read and which websites not to read
then we wouldn't be a free society

would we?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:20 PM
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:30 PM
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17. No the article is warning people that if you see Amino Sweet
on the label that is a new brand name for aspartame

You seem to be arguing the link and not the information on the link

You seem to be a aspartame fan
I am not

so no wonder you don't like the link
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:51 PM
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:48 AM
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67. Let's consult the Amino Sweet site.
http://www.aminosweet.info/about/about.asp
"AminoSweet® is the brand name of the low calorie sweetener aspartame produced by Ajinomoto Sweeteners Europe. AminoSweet is used by the world's leading food and drink manufacturers to sweeten a wide range of products."

They are not changing the name of aspartame. This is a brand name for marketing purposes, just like NutraSweet is in the US.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:31 PM
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18. The company that makes Aspartame says it...
http://www.ajinomoto-europe.com/en/ap-sweetener.html

The company that makes Aspartame is reporting the exact same thing as Natural News--that
the company that makes Aspartame is now marketing Aspartame as "Amino Sweet".

Google "Amino Sweet" and you get tons of hits--saying the same thing.

Natural News is just reporting what the company that makes Aspartame is disseminating.

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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:49 AM
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64. Oh really.
I have a degree in Food Science. In 1980, my professors said that there were so many problems in studies with aspartame that it would never be approved for human consumption.

Then Reagan got elected, and Rumsfeld's company, which produces aspartame, got approval to put that shit in food.

Who's the fool now?
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #64
83. Exactly.
Rumsfeld was able to get the FDA to approve the poison. I bet he doesn't consume it.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:03 AM
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56. I'm glad you got your fact-based post as the #1 response.
But as you can see, it does not matter with those who are fearful out of ignorance.
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alpizzy Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:02 PM
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2. Thank you!
I appreciate the heads up.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:24 PM
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14. your welcome there was another DU thread on it
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:04 PM
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3. We do live in a corporatocracy after all. They can do any shitty thing they want, to poison us &
get us to pay for their poison.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:05 PM
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4. unrec for using a woo site as a source.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:16 PM
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8. so what are you saying is Amino Sweet not Aspartame?
What is the brand name Amino sweet?

here are some more links if you don't like the ones above
http://www.foodbev.com/news/ajinomoto-brands-aspartame-aminosweet
It’s now more than 25 years since products sweetened with aspartame were first launched in Europe. In this time, the sweetener has transformed the market for low-​calorie and sugar-​free foods and drinks and has become the first choice for many leading brands.

Like other low-​calorie sweeteners, aspartame delivers sweetness without calories, but it’s unique in two ways:

Aspartame tastes like sugar
Aspartame is made from two amino acids.

In recent years, there has been more and more focus on the development of low-​calorie foods and drinks that help consumers maintain a healthy weight and avoid obesity. At the same time, food and drink manufacturers have become more interested in what their ingredients are made of and where they come from.

Ajinomoto believes that the time is right to remind the industry that aspartame tastes just like sugar, and that it’s made from amino acids – the building blocks of protein that are abundant in our diet.


http://youtu.be/ueRXS5I_Hco


http://www.aminosweet.eu/

In 1984, Monsanto Company bought G.D. Searle, and the aspartame business became a separate Monsanto subsidiary, the NutraSweet Company. On May 25, 2000, Monsanto sold it to J.W. Childs Equity Partners II L.P.<30> European use patents on aspartame expired starting in 1987,<31> and the U.S. patent expired in 1992. Since then, the company has competed for market share with other manufacturers, including Ajinomoto, Merisant and the Holland Sweetener Company.

Many aspects of industrial synthesis of aspartame were established by Ajinomoto.<8> In 2004, the market for aspartame, in which Ajinomoto, the world's largest aspartame manufacturer, had a 40 percent share, was 14,000 metric tons a year, and consumption of the product was rising by 2 percent a year.<32> Ajinomoto acquired its aspartame business in 2000 from Monsanto for $67M.<33>

In 2008, Ajinomoto sued British supermarket chain Asda, part of Wal-Mart, for a malicious falsehood action concerning its aspartame product when the chemical was listed as excluded from the chain's product line, along with other "nasties".<34> In July 2009, a British court found in favour of Asda.<35> In June 2010, an appeals court reversed the decision, allowing Ajinomoto to pursue a case against Asda to protect aspartame's reputation.<36> Asda said that it would continue to use the term "no nasties" on its own-label products,<37> but the suit was settled in 2011 with ASDA choosing to remove references to aspartame from its packaging.<38>

In November 2009, Ajinomoto announced a new brand name for its aspartame sweetener — AminoSweet.<39>

from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

A joint venture of DSM and Tosoh, the Holland Sweetener Company manufactured aspartame using the enzymatic process developed by Toyo Soda (Tosoh) and sold as the brand Sanecta.<40> Additionally, they developed a combination aspartame-acesulfame salt was developed under the brand name Twinsweet.<41> They left the sweetener industry in late 2006, because "global aspartame markets are facing structural oversupply, which has caused worldwide strong price erosion over the last five years", making the business "persistently unprofitable".
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:10 AM
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50. no one is saying that AminoSweet is not aspertame
What is being said is that the new name of AminoSweet is the new BRAND name chosen by this particular company... which it says right in your own post. So, instead of being called NutraSweet or whatever the hell the BRAND name used to be on the products that contained aspertame will now be called by the new BRAND name AminoSweet. Big woopdie doo. It will still say "aspertame" in the list of ingredients just like it always has with aspertame BRAND names like NutraSweet or Equal. The CHEMICAL name "aspertame" is not changing, this company is not in any position to change the chemical name and it is the chemical name that must appear in the list of ingredients just as it always has.

This isn't even news. There have already been threads here about this several times over a few years.



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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:00 AM
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55. Good post...nt
Sid
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:10 PM
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5. I switched to coconut sugar...
I hope I'm not too late. I used 3 packets of sweetener in my coffee every morning--for the past
20 years. I've used Sweet n Low, Equal and then went to Truvia.

After reading about all of it and learning--I switched to coconut sugar.

The big crime is that it's very expensive to eat healthy and avoid poison. Coconut sugar is $10 a can--and I only
use it for one cup of coffee in the morning. The can lasts me a month. I used to purchase a big box of Equal
or Sweet n Low packets for a couple of bucks--and that would last me 2 months. I could get better deals with
coupons.

I don't like the coconut sugar as well. I love very sweet coffee. So, I'm giving up taste and more money. However,
I am trying to win against these bastards.

It's a daily battle. The grocery store is full of great food that will heal you and do wonderful things for you--and
poisons that will kill you.



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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:25 PM
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41. How do you like the coconut sugar?
I haven't tried any yet. sounds interesting.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:39 AM
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49. A large percentage of 'groceries' is non-food dressed up as food for maximum profit. It's dead!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:12 PM
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6. I'll stick with my stevia, thank you... and where necessary a bit of
honey or sucrose (from sugar cane).

Bleah.... just as dishonest as the renaming of HFCS.
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:51 PM
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28. Me too
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:56 PM
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31. Not a problem... I've used it for decades...
Not that trashy attempt to turn it into a commercial processed product.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:14 PM
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7. Unrec...
First, Amino Sweet is a brand name. Check the ingredients of Amino Sweet and you'll see aspartame.

Second, naturalnews? Really? :rofl:

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:22 PM
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12. I placed some other links if you don't like Natural news
like wikipedia

it explains it all very well
Aspartame is losing market share...it over abundant
and Sucralose has taken over the market now

A joint venture of DSM and Tosoh, the Holland Sweetener Company manufactured aspartame using the enzymatic process developed by Toyo Soda (Tosoh) and sold as the brand Sanecta.<40> Additionally, they developed a combination aspartame-acesulfame salt was developed under the brand name Twinsweet.<41> They left the sweetener industry in late 2006, because "global aspartame markets are facing structural oversupply, which has caused worldwide strong price erosion over the last five years", making the business "persistently unprofitable".<42>

perhaps Wikipedia isn't good enough for you but it is me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:39 PM
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22. Aspartame is available under many brand names...
In Feb 2010, another one called Aminosweet was added to the market.

That's the extent of the story. Period.

Big. Fucking. Deal.

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:10 PM
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36. I'm just giving Duers the heads up in case they didn't read
Amino Sweet is another name for aspartame

It is a perfect example of how Corporations do business
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #36
84. Thanks for sharing!
Greatly appreciated - K&R!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:24 PM
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13. Isn't that the point though?
That people are on to Aspartame and it's gotten a bad rap.

So, the company that makes Aspartame is marketing and re-branding Aspartame--by re-naming
it as Amino Sweet. Amino Sweet is a new product that is nothing but Aspartame.

It's just like the high fructose corn syrup people re-branding their product as "corn sugar" when
the original name becomes associated with negativity.

Here's a link from the company that makes Aspartame. That company's name is Aninomto--and they're
announcing Amino Sugar--which is Aspartame. I think it's a hilarious attempt at a fake out on the
American people--who will not be fooled.
http://www.ajinomoto-europe.com/en/ap-sweetener.html
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:27 PM
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15. Coffee cat you get it!!! yes they realize the people are getting
informed and reading the labels ...now it is lets see if we can change the name
Amino Sweet sounds so sweet and Aminos are so so natural sounding


but it is far from the truth

Yes Coffee cat some of us are not going to be fooled ....no matter how much smoke you put up Corporations
We are onto the misinformation
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:35 PM
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19. I've worked in public relations for decades...
...and believe me--I know a re-branding campaign when I see one.

And if the company that makes Aspartame paid me to advise them--I would have advised them
to do what they did. Change the name. Name it something friendly and inviting because
many people avoid Aspartame and associate it with bad things.

BTW--I would never take that account though! I have standards.

Thanks for posting this Lovuian! This is helpful information. I'm way into
avoiding artificial sweeteners and because of you--I now know to avoid Amino
Sweet!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. You're completely wrong...
And, since this was all discussed here back in Feb 2010, when Ajinomoto introduced their brand of Aspartame, you're free to search the archives to see why you're wrong.

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:43 PM
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25. No I am completely right
I will definitely search for the Truth
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:44 PM
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26. Keep reading naturalnews then...
:rofl:

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:59 PM
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34. I will keep reading the TRUTH
it is why I come to DU
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:13 AM
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:59 AM
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68. You won't find the truth at naturalnews...nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:43 PM
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24. That's not from the company that makes aspartame...
That's from a company that makes aspartame. You don't seriously think that there's only one company in the world that makes an aspartame sweetener, do you?

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:53 PM
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30. Ajinomoto is the largest aspartame manufacturer and it
the U.S. patent expired in 1992. Since then, the company has competed for market share with other manufacturers, including Ajinomoto, Merisant and the Holland Sweetener Company.
Ajinomoto

In November 2009, Ajinomoto announced a new brand name for its aspartame sweetener — AminoSweet

Many aspects of industrial synthesis of aspartame were established by Ajinomoto.<8> In 2004, the market for aspartame, in which Ajinomoto, the world's largest aspartame manufacturer, had a 40 percent share, was 14,000 metric tons a year, and consumption of the product was rising by 2 percent a year.<32> Ajinomoto acquired its aspartame business in 2000 from Monsanto for $67M.

from Wikipedia
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:57 PM
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32. Thanks for confirming that aspartame sweeteners are made by many different companies...
And not just by the one using the brand name Aminosweet.

Sid
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:27 PM
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43. yes it is but Amino Sweet is the LARGEST producer
Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 11:28 PM by lovuian
with 40% of market share

but now that you mention it
what other names does aspartame go by with the other companies so we can keep a heads up for it

Oh wait look at this
Merisant Company is a United States manufacturer of artificial sweeteners, including Equal and Canderel.

The company was formed from Monsanto Company's tabletop sweetener business, which was acquired by a group of investors in 2000.

Merisant is privately held and headquartered in Chicago.

The Whole Earth Sweetener Company is a wholly owned subsidiary, which markets low-calorie sweeteners based on erythritol and stevia extract.

In January 2009, Merisant Worldwide filed for bankruptcy to restructure and invest in its new stevia-derived sweetener PureVia, emerging the following year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merisant

It is in chapter 11
PureVia is made from Stevia

and here is the other one

Holland Sweetener Company to exit from aspartame business
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/113316-Holland+Sweetener+Company+to+exit+from+aspartame+business

The global aspartame markets are facing structural oversupply, which has caused worldwide strong price erosion over the last 5 years.
that was in 2006


thanks for bringing this up
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:42 PM
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46. Nutrasweet is aspartame...nt
Sid
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:41 PM
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23. This is so important I can't tell you! It is also known as Neotame..Read on..
I have told this true story before that I had taken a class from a Nurse in Ohio who was part of the original aspartame testing and she had made all of us in the class raise our hands and swear we would forever more tell everyone we came in contact with about its carcinogen attributes! I have tried to do just that! It was Rumsfeld's baby and he pushed it through as most of us know. He is an evil man in more then one way and he will have to answer to his God about that someday! This is made from wood pulp and it is dangerous! Damn the USDA for letting it go through!

USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame

http://farmwars.info/?p=4897

By Barbara H. Peterson

Farm Wars

Just when we thought that buying “Organic” was safe, we run headlong into the deliberate poisoning of our organic food supply by the FDA in collusion with none other than the folks who brought us Aspartame. NutraSweet, a former Monsanto asset, has developed a new and improved version of this neurotoxin called Neotame.

Neotame has similar structure to aspartame — except that, from it’s structure, appears to be even more toxic than aspartame. This potential increase in toxicity will make up for the fact that less will be used in diet drinks. Like aspartame, some of the concerns include gradual neurotoxic and immunotoxic damage from the combination of the formaldehyde metabolite (which is toxic at extremely low doses) and the excitotoxic amino acid. (Holisticmed.com)

But surely, this product would be labeled! NOT SO!!! For this little gem, no labeling required. And it is even included in USDA Certified Organic food.

(more at link)

.........

Will it ever stop?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:57 PM
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33. OMG!
thanks for that one

Yes that is why it was renamed Amino Sweet
to make it sound less chemical and more organic and natural

because Americans are DEMANDING organic products
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:20 PM
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76. That is frightening
Basically, anything that is packaged is potentially hazardous.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 10:45 PM
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27. It is also known as Neotame - This is HUGE news! I have told the true story before about a Nurse
Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 10:50 PM by 1776Forever
that taught my nursing class who was a member of the original testing of aspartame and she made the entire class swear they would tell everyone NOT to use it in any form! Well now we have a new way of hiding it along with the Amino Sweet - it is called Neotame:

USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame
By Barbara H. Peterson

http://farmwars.info/?p=4897

Farm Wars

Just when we thought that buying “Organic” was safe, we run headlong into the deliberate poisoning of our organic food supply by the FDA in collusion with none other than the folks who brought us Aspartame. NutraSweet, a former Monsanto asset, has developed a new and improved version of this neurotoxin called Neotame.

Neotame has similar structure to aspartame — except that, from it’s structure, appears to be even more toxic than aspartame. This potential increase in toxicity will make up for the fact that less will be used in diet drinks. Like aspartame, some of the concerns include gradual neurotoxic and immunotoxic damage from the combination of the formaldehyde metabolite (which is toxic at extremely low doses) and the excitotoxic amino acid. (Holisticmed.com)

But surely, this product would be labeled! NOT SO!!! For this little gem, no labeling required. And it is even included in USDA Certified Organic food.

(more at link)

...........

Will it ever stop?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:14 PM
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37. isn't that a strange name Neotame
Consumer reports show that the taste of neotame, in comparison to natural sucrose, is extremely noticeable and is often described as bitter.

sounds like something out of the matrix

red pill or blue pill

it has a bit of aspar TAME in the name
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:16 PM
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38. Makes me fart like hell.................
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:20 PM
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:26 PM
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42. Thank you!
:hi:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:30 PM
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44. I quit using aspartame when I FINALLY figured out that it was the sole cause
of my irregular heartbeat (VPCs) that eventually became ventricular bigeminy/trigeminy that sent me to the ER. Dizziness, shortness of breath secondary to a heart that was completely wigging out. Felt like a damned rat jumping around in my chest.

I had been using it uneventfully for over 20 years when this developed.

I can reliably recreate the symptoms anytime I wish just by using that stuff again for a few days. But no thanks.

I use Splenda (generic). NO problems.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 11:37 PM
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45. I'm glad your doing good
think about the poor people who don't know
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:02 PM
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82. Question for you lovuian...
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 01:03 PM by Little Star
Like kestrel91316, I use Splenda. Have you heard any bad things about Splenda? I wouldn't knowingly use anything with aspartame in it and I wish they would take it off the dang market!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:18 AM
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69. PVCs here too
Doctor could not figure out what was wrong with me.
Terrible PVCs to the point of collapse.
Doc said I should carry my EKG printout "just in case".

Then I read that the two most common complaints about aspartame filed with the FDA are
visual disturbances and irregular heartbeat.

Stopped using aspartame and the PVCs stopped right away.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:03 PM
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86. What bothers me is, how many of these irregular heartbeats get bad enough to cause death?
At the ER they just shrugged their shoulders and sent me away when the Magnesium injection didn't help. And the cardiologist 2 weeks later did the same thing.

I am a veterinarian with no small amount of knowledge of cardiology and I KNOW that you can die if you have too many VPCs. I had figure out this one entirely on my own and cure myself.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:04 AM
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47. ignore the few loonies out there that don't know about this horible lab creation! as 1776 said,
there was a nurse back when this was coming out who said to avoid it because there were so many people against it but it was being forced through - it turns out it was being forced through by DONALD RUMSFELD and his dirty ties! sickening... avoid!!!!

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil..."

"...is that good men do nothing." --Edmund Burke





Get it now, or one of a million other designs! http://www.zazzle.com/republicans_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_bumper_sticker-128659602907896843?rf=238107662556833486
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:33 AM
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48. Thanks to Rumsfeld and his partner in crime Raygun the crap is almost everywhere.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:14 AM
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52. The BRAND name has been changed, not the CHEMICAL name
The new name of AminoSweet (which is long since no longer new) is the BRAND name chosen by this particular company. So, instead of being called NutraSweet or whatever the hell the BRAND name used to be on the products that contained aspertame are now being called by the new BRAND name AminoSweet. Big woopdie doo. It will still say "aspertame" in the list of ingredients just like it always has with aspertame BRAND names like NutraSweet or Equal. The CHEMICAL name "aspertame" is not changing, this company is not in any position to change the chemical name and it is the chemical name that must appear in the list of ingredients just as it always has.

This isn't even news. There have already been threads here about this several times for the past few years.


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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:28 AM
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53. Please read ... This article states aspartame in the form of neotame does NOT have to be identified
USDA Certified Organic’s Dirty Little Secret: Neotame
By Barbara H. Peterson

http://farmwars.info/?p=4897

...But surely, this product would be labeled! NOT SO!!! For this little gem, no labeling required. And it is even included in USDA Certified Organic food.

The food labeling requirements required for aspartame have now been dropped for Neotame, and no one is clear why this was allowed to happen. Neotame has been ruled acceptable, and without being included on the list of ingredients, for:

•USDA Certified Organic food items.
•Certified Kosher products with the official letter k inside the circle on labels. (Janet Hull)
Let me make this perfectly clear. Neotame does not have to be included in ANY list of ingredients! So, if you buy processed food, whether USDA Certified Organic or not, that food most likely will contain Neotame because it is cost-effective, and since no one knows it is there, there is no public backlash similar to what is happening with Aspartame. A win/win situation!

But that’s not all. Just love chowing down on that delicious steak? Well, that cow most likely will have been fed with feed containing…..you guessed it…..Neotame! A product called “Sweetos,” which is actually composed of Neotame, is being substituted for molasses in animal feed.

(more at link)

.......

The USDA is supposed to be watching out for the consumer - really???
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:38 AM
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54. It is NOT aspertame and it IS labeled
It is chemically different from aspertame, thus, it is NOT aspertame. Your own link says that (at least in the beginning of the article, but further down it then lies and says that it IS aspertame which it is NOT). It should be obvious that it is not aspertame since it required an entirely separate FDA approval. It is not BRANDS that require FDA approval, it is the various foods and additives those BRANDS use in their products. Aspertame had already been FDA approved decades ago whereas the food additive 961 known as Neotame had to be approved separately and much later since it more recently was invented and is NOT aspertame.

Since your link provides little and misleading info here's what you didn't bother looking up about it yourself:

Its BRAND name is Neotame. It is identified in the ingredients list by its International Numbering System food additive code 961. In the European Union the code number is preceded by the letter "E" and would therefore appear as "E961".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neotame

Sweetos is not comprised of the food additive 961 known as Neotame. It is made from fructo-oligo-saccharide (fructose/saccharin) and sucralose (Splenda is sucralose based, by the way).

http://sweetossugarfree.com/

Your article also claims that because it is not listed in the ingredients (though it IS listed by its food additive code number since it doesn't have a chemical name that isn't as long as one's arm) no one would know it was there, which is rather ridiculous since it has a very noticeable and bitter taste. Seeing as it is so vastly cheaper than aspertame and was approved by the FDA a number of years ago it is likely it is not replacing aspertame in much of anything because it noticeably tastes like shit.

Incidentally, the chemical name for Neotame is N--L-phenylalanine 1-methyl ester. I can see why it would be listed in the ingredients list by its code number.


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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:59 PM
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81. Here is another article that states that Neotame is likely more toxic than Aspartame same or not....
Neotame, New Neurotoxic Sweetener: FDA Says No Label Needed, Not Even in Organics
A Monsanto-created chemical, Neotame is likely more toxic than Aspartame. The FDA has quietly decided that we don't have the right to know if it's adulterating our food, not even if the food is labeled USDA Organic.
by Heidi Stevenson
2 January 2011



http://www.gaia-health.com/articles351/000368-neotame-neurotoxic-fda-says-no-lable.shtml

Aspartame can step aside. There's a new sweetener in town and it isn't saddled with the inconvenience of having to be listed on labels, so it can be sneaked into any prepared food, even USDA so-called Organic. So sayeth the FDA. Neotame is a Monsanto-created chemical similar to Aspartame, including its neurotoxic properties.

Monsanto developed Neotame as their Aspartame patent was expiring, and had no trouble in gaining FDA approval in 2002. They added 3-dimethylbutyl, a chemical listed as hazardous by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), to Aspartame, making it both sweeter and more toxic.

(more at link)

...........

With the name Monsanto on this "creation" I tend to believe this article!
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:24 PM
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85. so? I never said it wasn't more toxic
Maybe it is, I don't know. That was not at all what I was addressing in my post which should be obvious.

For the record I hate aspertame, I get very sick if I ingest it and so do most people I know in various degrees and even symptoms. I absolutely believe the shit never should have been approved by the FDA, and it needs to be taken off the market and out of the food chain. That doesn't mean however that I'm willing to spread misinformation about it particularly misinformation that is so easy to refute. Neotame I wouldn't trust either just as I don't trust any of the other sugar substitutes.

Considering that I am one of those people that has to read the labels of any food that I consume and avoid eating out because of not being able to be assured of what food I order contains it is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to claim that products containing Neotame can't be identified because it's not listed on the ingredients label because it IS listed by it's food additive code of 961 as all food additives identified only by a code number MUST be. Anyone that is concerned about people consuming Neotame would WANT it known how it can be identified in every product. Besides, the very idea that Neotame would purposely not identify the products in which it's contained with a special big and colorful Neotame brand label on all the products that contain it just as NutraSweet, Splenda and all the others do is ludicrous as they NEED to in order to market the shit. Whenever a company goes to all the trouble of inventing a brand name they bloody well are going to use it and as much as humanly possible.


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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:23 PM
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87. Great. Organic chemistry from ant anti-vax, pro-homeopathy site...
:banghead:

Sid
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:51 AM
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65. Not even that....
It's a different company making the same product. NutraSweet is the name brand of aspartame made by GD Searle & Co. Amino Sweet is the brand name of the aspartame made by Ajinomoto Sweeteners Europe. Ajinomoto called it something else a few years ago, and now they're calling it "Amino Sweet". Searle still calls their aspartame "NutraSweet". Dixie Crystals sells it under another name. So do Kroger and most other grocery store chains.
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Humanist_Activist Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:29 AM
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57. Hmm, observation on this thread...
first off I find the anti-aspartame side to be dishonest at the very least, even when they say they are for the TRUTH, in all caps, apparently.

Uhm, where is the evidence for any of this, and don't start the bullshit about aspartame being renamed, its been branded, like many other food products in all sorts of different ways. Did you hear that they renamed Cane Sugar to C&H Sugar? The HORROR!!! :sarcasm:

Granted, I'm no fan of aspartame, it tastes like shit, but I also hate pseudo-scientific clap trap passed off as real science, or even as decent sources of information. Show me the evidence, and don't lie, makes you look bad.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:33 AM
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59. All caps means your position is super-truthy...nt
Sid
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Humanist_Activist Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:41 AM
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60. Searching for truth is fine and dandy in philosophy class, good luck with that....
in the real world, its better to just look for evidence and to double check facts. That way you will get an accurate working model of the world.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:46 AM
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63. As opposed to possessing a trendy cynicism.
As opposed to possessing a trendy cynicism.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:55 AM
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71. I don't have trendy cynicism...
I have TRENDY CYNICISM.

My cynicism goes to 11. It's one louder.

Sid
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:33 AM
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58. Didn't I read this shit last year?
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Humanist_Activist Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:45 AM
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61. Heads up DUers, they renamed Ketchup to Heinz 57...
they even call it a "natural sauce", the bastards.
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Humanist_Activist Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:46 AM
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62. They renamed cocoa to Swiss Miss...
what are these nefarious companies hiding?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:20 AM
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70. lol n/t
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:00 AM
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66. The company that makes AminoSweet made this name change announcement
in 2009.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:57 AM
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72. So it's not "Nutrasweet" anymore?
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 11:58 AM by Avalux
I guess since Nutrasweet has such a bad name, it was prudent to change it so people can be fooled into thinking Amino Sweet is a natural, benign substance. x(
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:04 PM
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73. Nutrasweet is the brand name of the aspartame made by the Nutrasweet Company...
http://www.nutrasweet.com/

Aminosweet is the brand name of aspartame made by Ajinomoto Sweeteners Europe http://www.aminosweet.info/

Equal is the brand name of aspartame made by Merisant http://www.equal.com/

All of them are aspartame. Nobody is trying to be sneaky to make something different or unrecognizable. The only dishonesty in all this is from naturalnews.com

Sid



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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:10 PM
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74. NutraSweet is made by a different company and still uses that
brand name for aspertame. The AminoSweet is another company that used some other brand name for aspertame until this announcement changing whatever that brand name was to AminoSweet.

This all occurred years ago anyway being posted at various time here before.


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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:12 PM
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75. Thanks to both of you for the info. n/t
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:26 PM
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77. Never use sugar or anything containing aspartame.
I only use Splenda or Equal.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:43 PM
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79. Equal is aspartame...
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 12:45 PM by SidDithers
www.equal.com

Edit: sorry, Equal Classic is aspartame.
They also now have Equal Sucralose and Equal Saccharin


Sid
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:25 PM
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88. Yep. Anything in a blue packet is likely aspartame.
Sucralose (e.g., Splenda) is usually in a yellow package. Saccharine (e.g., Sweet and Low) tends to come in pink packages. And, anything with Stevia (e.g., Truvia) tends to have a green container.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:34 PM
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78. They could probably get rid of nuclear waste by putting in in diet soda.
Enjoy the Sparkling Goodness and Energy™ of NuceoLite Soda!!!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:45 PM
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80. thanks for the info
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