If this bullshit was happening in any other fucking country

[rainbow4321]

We would be seeing:

Emergency UN meeting in the morning

NATO knocking at the door

Secretary of State giving a presser first thing in the morning denouncing everything taken place


A POTUS press conference in the morning on the inhumane tyranny that "happened last night", including citizens being beaten/gassed/arrested, journalists being rounded up/banned/kicked out



Instead, we will hear puff pieces in the news tomorrow (or later today, I should say) in the MSM about goodness knows what and our "leaders" will maintain radio silence.

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. This is some of what happened, thanks Hissyspit:

http://www.twitvid.com/SGWD9

[Selatius]

2. We're fortunate in that there isn't a body count in the thousands, like in Syria right now.

That's really the only saving grace of this form of soft totalitarianism we see in the US. They're not using live ammunition and tanks to stomp out protests.

[newfie11]

6. yet n/t

[Tx4obama]

3. The UN and NATO are not going to be concerned about people/tents ....

being evicted from private property no matter what country it is happening in.

The OWS needs to start doing marches in the DAYTIME when they would get more mainstream media coverage and a more diverse age group of folks would be participating in the events.

Since the majority of the police raids happen at 'night' then the logical thing to do is not camp out at night (especially in places that have ordinances that say tents can't be put up) - and do the protesting and marching during the daytime.

OWS really needs some leaders that can plan out better strategy tactics. Target insurance companies, hedgefunders, university admin buildings, oil companies, etc. Tent cities in parks is not going to move the movement forward.

[Fumesucker]

4. Remember this?

[lunatica]

5. So the fact we're hearing about what happens at night is just some miraculous fluke

right?

So far the OWS has been in the news 24 hours a day. It's being covered.

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[fasttense]

8. First it's not really private property.

In exchange for mangling construction regulations, the group that owns Zuccotti Park has to allow public access 24/7. So in the end the public ends up paying for it, one way or another.

Second, protest marches were conducted regularly throughout the bushes regime. Yet hardly any media paid any attention to them until Occupy Wall Street occupied the park.

Third, if they need leaders, and you have so much criticism for them, then get out there and lead them.

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. +1000000

:thumbsup:

[lonestarnot]

47. Heh! Excellent post!

[MadrasT]

23. +1

[sabrina 1]

32. The OWS is doing fine, and all this is going to do is strengthen

this movement. Marches are a waste of time without occupations and they need to continue even if they have to move from place to place, to occupy the public square and not to go home until major changes have been made.

This coordinated action against the American people proves that our Government is owned by the 1%, a point now made crystal clear to everyone and anyone who had doubts.

What should have happened, and has in a few towns, is that at least Democrats, should have worked WITH the people, assuming they were not lying when running for office. Now, we see clearly who they are working for.

This movement will not only not go away, it has now become stronger than ever with so many options open to rid this country of those in our government at all levels, and that is becoming more clear by each action they take against the people, who are not on the side of the people.

[reggie the dog]

9. our government would cheer such action in other countries

who supported the right wing dictators in Nicaragua, Hondouras, El Salvador, Argentina, Chile? Who paid for the coup against Chavez in Venezuela? THE USA! the usa prefers right wing dictators to left wing democratically elected officials, we invaded Grenada because THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR THE SOCIALIST PARTY! I dare say that the only reason that the USA didnt invade France in the 80's for having a Socialist president was because we have nukes!

[Enthusiast]

16. Plus one! LOL on that last point

but I understand what you are getting at.

It's like protect unrestricted capitalism regardless of the harm it might do. I mean, how else would we have been able to wrest this land away from the original inhabitants if we didn't behave like a berserker?

[reggie the dog]

26. do you know that the beserkers are the craziest biker gang in wales?

they are more hardcore than the banditos! scary people

[Enthusiast]

42. Historically speaking, they sound like a bad bunch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker

[reggie the dog]

10. the UN PULLED ITS TROOPS BACK

and let the genocide happen in Rwanda

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. Mmmmm wouldn't we be flying toys from Nevada to protect the

the people who are trying to practice their democracy??

[w0nderer]

12. they are in new york

OWS could take a petition signed by occupiers requesting 'observers' or peace keepers
to the UN, if naught else that'd start some more media
and FORCE the US Ambassador to the UN to respond to some pretty ...interesting questions

play the system

[Fumesucker]

13. Put it up as an OP.. Great idea.. n/t

[w0nderer]

14. posted and thanks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x638210

[mwrguy]

15. Nobody did anything about Tiananmen Square, either

Help is not on the way.

[Enthusiast]

18. Yes they did. After China made

their country safe for capitalism we handed over all our manufacturing.

[treestar]

17. Far worse happens in other countries daily

:wtf:

[TBF]

21. Any cites for that? Love that authoritarian stance ...

not.

[reggie the dog]

28. sudan, burma, north korea

yemen, syria, just to name a few from this week

[TBF]

30. Those aren't cites - those are countries. I have no doubt that they have issues -

as have we. Frankly, I don't see our country doing much better than the ones you listed. But I'd still like to see the cites.

[treestar]

36. Oh, please

Read about what happens to people in other countries. Start at Amnesty International.

[TBF]

41. I don't have to do your research for you. If you are going to cite something at least

have the integrity to back it up.

Here, I'll get you started with human rights abuses in the USA (with YOUR source - Amnesty Int'l): http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/usa?id=1011100

[reggie the dog]

39. Homs, Syria

Sana'a, Yemen

Pyongyang, North Korea

Yangon, Burma

Sudan and South Sudan have had problems, Darfour region... not a city i know,

[treestar]

35. Common sense?

The slights knowledge of the world beyond the US?

[TBF]

40. Is that how you respond when anyone asks you for evidence? NGU. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. Does that make repression of free speech and assembly OK here?

[treestar]

37. No.

But we really do not have that here.

[randome]

19. Right.

Protesters allowed to stay for 2 months and when this large group of campers in public spaces start to cause problems, the Powers That Be issue advance notice that they will need to clear out -TEMPORARILY!

And then they adhere to what a judge orders.

Yeah, this is just as bad as forced rape and ritualistic killings.

[Lurks Often]

20. If this was happening in a lot of other countries

the protesters would be shot or spend years in jail or maybe be sent off to a labor camp.

If this was happening in a lot of other countries, DU would be shut down and members would be jailed or shipped off to labor camps.

[Fumesucker]

25. Name one that isn't a third world hellhole..

Is that *really* who you want to compare "The Land of the Free" to?

Seriously?

[Lurks Often]

44. "third world hellhole" is kind of subjective

do you have a definition? I wouldn't call Syria or Iran a "third world hellhole" and China certainly isn't a world leader in human rights either.

[TBF]

31. Thank you for the 6th grade propaganda lesson. Have you any cites to back up your words?

nt

[Lurks Often]

43. Since you choose to be condescending and sarcastic

feel free to do your own research if you are that ignorant of other countries. I'll give you a place to start though, it's called North Korea

[treestar]

38. +1

[Javaman]

22. It's happening in Syria, Italy and Greese to name a few...

London is next.

I don't hear anyone calling any sort of meeting at the UN, do you?

[steelmania75]

27. Just gotta keep going. Organize a massive occupation of the national mall, like a million people.

[lunatica]

33. Knowing the truth isn't always pleasant

But it is always a good thing to know.

[Marr]

34. No, we'd see a state response if revolution was profitable for western plutocrats.

If this same thing were happening in a place where the 1% has their money invested, the only international attention would be assurances that we need to "restore order".

[JI7]

45. it happened in France and nothing like what you say was done

[DirkGently]

46. Yep. We'd be sending in drones to bomb some democracy into place.