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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:54 PM
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SCOTUS will hear health care case this term, part duex;
This title was used in the 'Breaking News' section. I use it here so I can rant a little. First, the link;

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-hear-health-care-150829648.html

Next, some of the comments that are posted so far following the article;

KPG writes;

"This law will be known as the "Unaffordable Care Act" in a few years as premiums skyrocket. Until we get insurance and healthcare costs under control, there is NO AFFORDABLE SOLUTION!!!!"

And Lipps Doa adds;

"Affordable Care Act, yeah right. My insurance premiums have risen 90% since the Affordable Care Act was enacted into law. We need to get rid of obama now, before he does more damage to the country..."

My rant goes something like this;

If this bill is not allowed to go forward there will be more than insurance companies' 'Death Panels.' I fear there will be a significant lowering of the US's life expectancy, the end to emergency room care without proof of insurance, or a healthy bank account and people dying in the streets. The last may be a stretch but the whiners who cry because health care premiums have shyrocketed recently are seeing Market Forces as they truly are: If you can raise rates and the price of a product or service, do it. What are you going to do, complain to your congress critter that insurance companies are price gouging?

Medicare and Medicaid are so expensive now because nearly everyone who goes through these programs ARE the ones who have high health costs. Under a single payer health system say 'Medicare for All,' 200 million more Americans would be added to the rolls and health care costs would plummet. The actual losers? Health Care Companies. These blood sucking entities are nothing more than 'middle men.' They have cost consumers nearly 1 TRILLION dollars over the last decade and are lowering the average American's quality of life. You know where this money has gone; to the stockholders in the major health care companies. This is great if you happen to own enough shares in these companies to be able to make a good bit of money via dividends and stock increases. However, I'd say this is another instance of the 1% vs. the 99%ers.

SOCIALSIM you cry! But the reality is that the government exists, as the Preamle to the Constitution states:

The America of today does not follow 4 of the 5 goals that the Constitution tries to adhere to; 'promote a more perfect Union.' Only the 'provide for the common defence' is somewhat adhered to. I say somewhat as the US is leading us more and more into unjust wars and trying to become the first 21st century's and leaving us open to hatred by a billion people. With rulings on the Supreme Court stating that corporations are people, with many of the rights and privaledges accorded to human beings, there can NOT be neither 'domestic Tranquility' or 'promotion of the general Welfare.' When people are not happy, they want changes. I say that most Americans ARE NOT HAPPY.

Reagan is (in)famous for saying, 'Government is not the solution, it is the problem.' I have heard 'our side's reply to that bankrupt political ideology; Government is best when it increases a citizen's personal freedoms.' Personal freedom cannot exist when 400 families control nearly every aspect of our country. When that happens we are just puppets performing for their personal pleasure. Have we come so far as to e a virtual autocracy? I had feared a theocracy but if the 400 families do control EVERYTHING then the religion part will be just a glossing over of the true power structure.

One more comment from Landon;

"Why the hell did they throw in the Bush/Gore case at the end of this story? What a bizarre little irrelevant jab at the Court and at Bush. The AP just continues to embarrass themselves."

I add this last comment so as to highlight one of the failed goals of the Constitution; 'to establish Justice.' Historians will look back upon this era with horror. The wrongs Congress, the Executive branch and the Supreme Court have done to the middle class, and all but those who are much more than 'comfortable,' had consequences that led to terrible strife for generations in the future.

Tocqueville, if alive, would writhe in agony and shame with what America has become less than 2 centuries after his masterpiece 'Democracy in America.' This famous tome was where he first used the phrase 'the Grand Experiment.' Too bad that experiment blew up in our faces.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 02:10 PM
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1. This will be a partisan vote against the President by at least four of the conservative judges..
Being as this is an election year and the high profile nature of the health care law and how the GOP candidates have swarmed on it as a red meat issue... there is no doubt in my mind the hard core four SupremaCons will vote unconstitutinal as a jab to the stomach of our President in hopes it will sway the 2012 election to the Republicans. Only Justice Kennedy might have the guts to vote his conscience and join with the liberal leaning justices.
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