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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:22 PM
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Bill Kristol concedes 2012 presidential race to Democrats
Bill Kristol concedes 2012 presidential race to Democrats

By David Ferguson
Saturday, November 5, 2011


In a column at the Weekly Standard website, former New York Times columnist Bill Kristol opines that “assuming that presidential field remains as it is” for the GOP, “2012 won’t be a repeat of 1980″. He is referring to the election of Ronald Reagan after Jimmy Carter’s single term in the White House.

The column itself is a semi-rhapsodic invocation of what is apparently to Kristol a sacred date, “November 4, 1980, the instant when we knew Ronald Reagan, the man who gave the speech in the lost cause of 1964, leader of the movement since 1966, derided by liberal elites and despised by the Republican establishment, the moment when we knew—he’d won, we’d won, the impossible dream was possible, the desperate gamble of modern conservatism might pay off, conservatism had a chance, America had a chance”.

Kristol quotes a passage from William Faulkner’s 1948 novel, Intruder in the Dust which says for a certain species of Southern teenager, it is permanently the eve of the battle of Gettysburg, the high-water mark of the Confederate effort in the Civil War. Kristol casts the Southern struggle in 1863 as that of the American conservative, the victory in 1980 forming a kind of bulwark in their ongoing war to win out “over decadent liberalism”.

Many on the right are dreaming that the next presidential election will return the country to Republican rule, but Kristol’s column appears to pour cold water on those hopes. “(We’re not going to have a chance to replay that election,” he says, with the current crop of candidates, in spite of the fact that he refers to President Obama as “an icompetent incumbet”.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/05/bill-kristol-concedes-2012-presidential-race-to-democrats/
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:24 PM
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1. Uh, oh...this has me worried.
Kristol has never been right about anything ever!

:rofl:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:28 PM
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2. I can think of one time when he was right
In 1993 he sent out a memo to all the Republicans in Congress urging them to oppose and defeat--not modify and amend--the Clinton health care bill. He argued that the party would be rewarded for doing so. They next year they were. \

So that is one time his prognostication was right out of about 10,578.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:29 PM
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3. My first thought, too. Kristol has never been right. If toesucker predicts the same, we're doomed.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:31 PM
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4. Kristol would be unable to name the color of the sky at noon on a cloudless day.
My first thought when I saw the OP title ... "oh crap, Kristol is always wrong."
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:50 PM
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9. DITTO!
:rofl:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:35 PM
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5. Who gives a shyt wtf Kristol thinks. NWO warmonger azzhole!
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:38 PM
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6. Maybe he was supporting Cain, and saw Rachel expose him as a fraud last night


The conservatives figure Romney can't beat Obama so they have desperately been searching for someone else to win the nomination. Some must have figured that an African American candidate might even split the African American vote.

Now that Cain is the only one challenging Romney in the polls, and he has been exposed as a fraud, the conservatives have every reason to give up. It looks like Romney wins the nomination by default and then loses to Obama.



I hope the Koch brothers, Rove and all the other money laundering Citizens United exploiting pricks waste tons of money and end up losing anyways. Maybe it will cause the donations to be lower in 2016.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:43 PM
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7. an apt comparison. Conservatives as Confederates.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:45 PM
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8. Yeah, but the Dems have an amazingly tried and true propensity for snatching defeat
from the jaws of victory.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:55 PM
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10. Yes, and with the help of roverian propensity to steal elections.....
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 08:38 AM
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13. Aided by the Dems willingness to roll over and let them steal elections, unfortunately
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:20 AM
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14. Yes. That MUST stop. DOJ + must get into this.
They/Dems seem to have begun an effort, but its got to be MORE than weak tea.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 09:02 PM
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11. Don't let your guard down folks. Fight the good fight for the last vote.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 09:36 PM
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12. My guess is that those on the right who think it is going to be so easy
to win are convinced that "most" of America is upset with the foreign born black president. :sarcasm:

I think they are wrong. Most Americans are not that dumb.
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