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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:53 PM
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Rape victim: Cardinal makes ‘me feel like I’m a baby killer’ --just plain sickening
The Chicago Archdiocese needs to be called out over this.

Rape victim: Cardinal makes ‘me feel like I’m a baby killer’

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That violent act 20 years ago reshaped Goodman’s life and now has made her the unlikely focal point of a nasty spat between two of Illinois’ most powerful men: the state’s Roman Catholic governor and the spiritual head of 2.3 million Chicago area Roman Catholics.

Gov. Pat Quinn will present to Goodman, a rape-crisis counselor and stay-at-home mom, the top honor as a “preeminent advocate for rape victims” awarded by Personal PAC, an abortion-rights group. at its Nov. 17 dinner. The group helped him win the governorship last year.

When Cardinal Francis George and other Roman Catholic bishops across Illinois found out Quinn would present the award, they condemned the pro-choice governor for going “beyond a political alignment with those supporting the legal right to kill children in their mother’s wombs to rewarding those deemed most successful in this terrible work.”

Goodman, who is pro-choice and whose mother sits on the board of Personal PAC, never had an abortion because she didn’t get pregnant after the rape. As a counselor, she said, she never directed a rape victim to an abortion clinic. All of that makes her question why she would be the object of such charged language from the cardinal and other bishops.

“It upsets me when they kind of make me feel like I’m a baby killer,” Goodman told the Chicago Sun-Times.

“It does hurt. And it hurts for all those people who have been raped. Yeah, it definitely hit home and hurt me. You don’t know me,” she said, referring to the cardinal. “You don’t know my situation.”
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http://www.suntimes.com/8614537-417/rape-victim-cardinal-makes-me-feel-like-im-a-baby-killer.html
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:02 PM
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1. The Abrahamic Religions are anti-woman, it is that simple.
My friend is lucky that she was on BC when she was raped, she has physical handicaps and could not handle a pregnancy.

I hate these religious FUCKERS.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:05 PM
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2. +1, n/t
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:47 PM
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7. All Abrahamic religions consider women to be broodmares
They exist for one purpose - to produce more livestock. The males can go on to become whatever they choose to be, the women are lesser beings that serve to produce more males.

It's part of the "Warrior Culture". It serves no one, least of all the children. They are livestock too, and the highest aspiration a man can attain in an Abrahamic religion can attain is more goats.

Yes, I said it, but it's true.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 08:45 PM
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13. I think it goes back to the late neolithic as populations increased and...
...People got into spats with neighboring tribes more often over resources and good land, and as things got more densely settled it became more profitable to steal your neighbors cattle in a raid. Neolithic societies with high population densities tend to be highly misogynistic and patriarchal (the peoples of Papua New Guinea are an example), as are semi-nomadic livestock-herding cultures (like the people who spoke Proto-Indo-European and Proto-Semitic)

The result was a greater emphasis on young male warriors and an emphasis on women popping out as many potential warriors as possible.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:09 PM
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3. for 2000 years the catholic church preferred doing its own extermination of born humans nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:24 PM
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:39 PM
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5. It's the easy way of saying
"I support abortion, but only when the mother isn't a vile and promiscuous woman" defense. The thing is, however, that these types of laws don't discriminate, and "vile and promiscuous woman" is rather subjective. Too much sex, and/or enjoying it, with one's husband could be "vile and promiscuous" to some religions.

God forbid a woman engage in sexuality (which all of us here have had at least one woman do, otherwise we wouldn't even be here) and she certainly shouldn't be enjoying it (in which case, burn her at the stake if it wasn't for marriage, because otherwise, she certainly *MUST* have provoked/enjoyed/some how caused it).

Men are completely pure. They would NEVER think about sex if it wasn't for some woman luring them into sex. Women rape men all of the time, you know? They can't help themselves. :sarcasm:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:29 PM
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 02:47 PM
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6. cardinals disgust me in generals --the ones from rome and the ones in st louis
although i have to admit

the ones from rome are a special class of slime
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:19 PM
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8. "You don’t know me, you don’t know my situation.”
And if they did, dear heart, they wouldn't give a shit.

Their idiotic theology is all that matters to them. No human considerations whatsoever.

Very brave of them to inflict suffering on other people which they'll never have to suffer themselves.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 05:32 PM
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10. Hear, hear
I'm sick to death of people who think their chosen beliefs give them the right to dictate what's right for everyone else.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 05:36 PM
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11. this, from the international criminal outfit that helps child abusers escape justice
...why hasn't INTERPOL arrested The Pope, yet? :shrug:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 05:38 PM
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12. Jesus loves the little children
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