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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:16 AM Original message |
Serious question: what's the end-game strategy for OWS? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. end game?. . Why an end game at all? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If you're waiting for Congress - especially THIS Congress |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You mean like the MASSIVE marches against the Iraq invasion? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I mean like the one culminating in Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Speaking of 'history,' you're engaging in some well-meaning |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
86. What changed that "course of history" was the riots |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
116. well, you know back when Dr. King made his speech |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. Endgame? How about a defined set of objectives? |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Bingo |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. "Jail the Thieves" sounds kinda specific to me /nt |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Which thieves? One what specific charges? Or should we just start lynching anyone in a business suit |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I don't agree |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. "Outside the box" is a euphemism for "standing in the park chanting and playing bongo drums" |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. You mean all that ballot box power that has worked so well so far? |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
125. A citizen occupying a public space for the purpose of political speech |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. "Jail the Thieves" is fabulous. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:31 AM Original message |
So should the protesters prepare all the legal documents? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. Of course not. Get real. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. Your approach will accomplish nothing |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Make some specific demands and change'll happen? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:29 AM Original message |
Occupy Los Angeles turned 23 days old on October 23 and its |
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66 dmhlt (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
95. OWS is a "Cri de Coeur" - Our "Cry from the Heart" ... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
106. unfortunately, some OWS's are even far afield from 'income inequality' as an issue |
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Cumberland Guy (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
118. I 2nd the Bingo! |
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redgiant (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
120. You dare to ask a rational and reasonable question? n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. #Occupy is a tactic, the 99% is the movement |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Large rallies/protests are quickly forgotten. Remember Glenn Beck's 60,000 strong event? |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. The whole point is not leaving till they get what they came for. n/t |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. What's that? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Economic equality. nt |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Exactly |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. That's a nice amorphous blob. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Which side are you on? |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. so what does that mean? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
59. Yes, they do, and you know just as well as I do and the rest of us do |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #59 |
137. George Bush: Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Which side am I on??: Are you for freakin' REAL??? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
61. I agree with Bake here |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
79. The problem with the left right now - |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #36 |
82. Please see #81 - |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
104. Have you been to your local occupy general assembly? |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Define "economic equality" |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. A 10 to 1 spread works very well in the social-democratic nations. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
62. Greatr answer! I'm filing it away. /nt |
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Puzzledtraveller (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
70. how? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Depends upon who you're asking - |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
117. They issued a list of demands weeks ago. n/t |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women! |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. You forgot about the |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. "End game" implies "over". That's the wrong way to think of this. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. "just another step in an evolving conversation in the public square |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. I meant that the idea of a march would be "just another step". You're right about OWS. nt |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Just another step in the evolving conversation? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. I'm not saying give up specific goals. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. Serious Answer: |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Great. How are you going to bring that to pass? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
75. my answer was very specific |
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Abin Sur (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
34. An end to government corruption? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
76. it's actually very simple to solve: |
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Abin Sur (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. "Corrupt politicians"? That term is redundant. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I would agree... |
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Abin Sur (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
122. Never going to happen. |
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2pooped2pop (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. It will go on through the winter but smaller |
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LuvNewcastle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. We're a long ways from a culmination. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
45. We don't have years to wait. |
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LuvNewcastle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
84. This isn't just about Wall St., |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
133. By that analogy, about five years before that |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. Well the police will continue to push and doubtful many camps will survive the winter |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think many miss that they're only seeing the "tip of the iceberg". |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
28. Please tell me you're not serious |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Oh fucking get real! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Well, then, perhaps I misread this: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Deleted message |
shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
88. If I remember correctly that the civil rights movement DID |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Bake, Kill the "leader"...it is purpseful by OWS. they don't play |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
119. Go down to your occupy |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
29. Framing it in terms of end game is kind of like thinking in terms of corporate business models |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Good points /nt |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Then you'd better have 100 years to wait.... |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. It's not constructive to frame the movement in the same way Fox news does. |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
39. OWS just stepped out of the primordial soup a little over a month ago... |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. General strikes are a great next step. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Here's the thing about the |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Bingo. And I'm still getting resumes out. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. sigh! Fun, isn't it?! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
131. Are you in the city limits of Oacland? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
90. Everyone has the right to honour their own conscience and needs. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Shop stewards? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Union reps - one of their roles is to enforce strikes called by the union. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Okay, thanks for the info. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
132. The fact you need to ask that question |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
40. Agreed. There has to be a solid objective and a plan to achieve it - |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. End Game, how about this? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
47. I don't see it that way.... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
48. "It worked in the 60s with Dr. King" - um, actually, the March on |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
51. Win? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
52. It certainly appears otherwise... |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Diminishing returns... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #69 |
94. We see what we want to... |
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yoyossarian (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
134. Bake, PLEEEZ... |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
63. A march on Washington would be a good way to bring it to an end. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
67. Final action is giant protest to delayed deficit reduction deal. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
68. End game? Same as finding leaders....... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
71. It took a minimum of thirty years to get to this point.. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
72. So nobody has answered yet ... whats the next step? |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. There is strategy you just are not acknowleging it. You need to go down there and feel it yourself |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Yes, I "got it." |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. have you actually gone down and talked to occupiers or are you just parroting Fox's concerns? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #80 |
96. You appear to conflate prognostication and curiosity... |
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yoyossarian (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
135. Do you, like, read the endings of books first? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Know what's weird? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. "Does not end" is not realistic. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. No, somebody does not have to "think about the next step". |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
73. Would you like a cookie? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Cookie? No. I'd like a llong term strategy. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. When and who precisely did the leaders of the civil rights movement |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Duh. There were leaders in that movemet ... King, Abernathy, et al. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
103. So make "a llong term strategy" of your own! |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
87. Catalyzing a series of General Strikes works for me. So long as we don't call it an "end-game". |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
93. End Game = OWS becomes Get Out The Vote effort for Dems. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. So what about the parts of it outside your fair land? |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. What "parts" are they? Got a good view of them? You tell me. |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
100. To force or create a society based upon people instead of greed. |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
107. We have a long ways to go to end game |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Sorry, but history says it's doomed to fail, in the short run at least. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
126. that's an incorrect reading of history |
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yoyossarian (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #109 |
136. Bake, take a CHILL PILL! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
110. My guess is that OWS will sort of fade out and be replaced by |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. There are 'leaders'? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I suspect you are correct |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
124. that poster is not correct |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
111. I agree. |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. You think they're milling about, but they're not. |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
115. 'Leader' doesn't seem to make any headway. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #115 |
127. really? who was the spokesperson for the Civil Rights movement in its first year? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
121. The goal is to continue to bring awareness to the problems and to awake a sleeping populous. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
123. What would he have said if you told him in 1955 to march on DC for Civil Rights? |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
128. I don't see this ending any time soon. The economy will have to get better quick |
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Progressive dog (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
129. What would you like the strategy to be |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
138. Serious answer attend one |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
139. Everyone gets their pony and rides off into the sunset |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
140. A GROUP VOW TO VOTE BLUE is the end game....I would suggest anyways... :o) |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
141. It Gets a Better Name and Becomes an "-ism" |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
142. Real life rarely affords for well planned 'endgames' because life has |
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