For those confused as to why the Rubio story is so important

[NNN0LHI]

The difference is the reason his family came here. Was the reason political as he suggests or was it for economic reasons?

See, if someone comes here from Cuba to flee Castro that makes that person an anti-communist hero in right wing politics. But if someone left Cuba for economic reasons before Castro came to power that makes them the same as any other family that comes to the US for a better life. And the Republican party considers someone who comes here for economic reasons and a better life rather than for political reasons a criminal. Not a hero.

This paints the baggers who support Rubio into a corner. See why this is so important?

Don

[aquart]

1. Didn't someone here say that makes Rubio an "anchor baby"?

[FarCenter]

2. Yes, although possibly his parents may have been political refugees

They might have been revolutionaries fleeing the Bautista regime.

[NNN0LHI]

36. If they were political refugees why would they return to Cuba voluntarily?

That doesn't make a lot of sense does it?

Don

[WinkyDink]

38. Bwahahahah! Right. Revolutionaries FLEE.

[asjr]

3. His parents might not have told him the

real story. It could be they pissed off Battista when he was head of Cuba and felt it safer to get out.

[opihimoimoi]

4. The GOPers new thrill is in for a SPILL

[hwmnbn]

5. yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

thanks for explaining.

[mod mom]

6. pukes will overlook that as long as their lackey totes the party line.

Remember what hypocrites they are?

[Puzzledtraveller]

7. aside from general dishonesty

which is bad enough, why are we focusing a laser on Rubio? Self fullfilling prophecy? I hope not, none of this will penetrate the masses, if he is selected as a VP candidate and accepts we may have some problems. Now he's on the radar, and many people will sympathize with his story, factual or not because they don;t watch 24 hr news cycles and will only hear about WAPO attacking him.

[flamingdem]

8. Worse is that his family went back to Cuba in 1962 AFTER Fidel took over so

in a bagger's mind they are commie-lovers supporting the Cuban government.

This really flies against the idea that they had to escape Castro.

The fact is however since he's "white" he'll probably get a partial pass
I'm looking forward to his statements on this.

[eleny]

11. A firend related Bill Press's spin of how the parents didn't have permanent visa status

Because they intended to go back. But when Marco was born, he became their anchor baby.

Does this ring factual to you or did Bill Press get it wrong?

[flamingdem]

33. That's incorrect, Marco Rubio was born too late for that and Cubans could get asylum

I can't see why staying in the US would have been a problem for them.

It's fun to say Anchor Baby though to upset the freepers!

[eleny]

34. lol!

anchor baby, oh anchor ba-yay-bee!

sung to the tune of "angel baby". :D

[Sarah Ibarruri]

9. We need to make sure everyone knows Rubio's family didn't leave Cuba due to Castro

He's cashing in by pretending his family did.

Can't stand that a-hole.

[OHdem10]

10. Also, is Rubio developing a pattern of disingenuousness. VERY

EARLY on Rubio had problems with having used the Party
Credit Cards for personal use. The GOP quickly papered
over this.

Now the matter of just when his family came here. The
GOP are quick to base immigrants. Could the Rubio's simply
just be another good family who came to this country
seeking a better life. If so Rubio and his party are
extremely disingenuous. Selective Immigrant Bashing.

Why both these things are important. Rubio is the RISING
STAR in the Republican Rarty. Is there a little tarnish
froming??? Just asking?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. Even worse. It seems his family might have supported the overthrow of Batista. But later

changed their minds about the Castro government. Which is fine, but in the crazy cesspool that is the right wing mind. That makes them "commie sympathizers".

[FarCenter]

15. Castro had a lot of support in the US, and Batista was generally reviled

Only later, after Castro started to nationalize US property in Cuba, did the US begin to oppose him.

It's all about the money.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

21. I understand all that but try to explain it to a right winger. They have all forgotten about

the parade Castro got in NYC and how he shook hands with Nixon. Not to mention the fact that the CIA put its support behind Castro toward the end of the Batista regime.

[SpiralHawk]

13. Of course, all the RepubliBagger families came here for reasons...

...either economic or political. But NOW THAT THEY GOT THEIRS, they want to shovel crap on everyone else. Sooooo Republicon.

[EFerrari]

14. Rubios came here fleeing capitalism!

:rofl:

[formercia]

16. They could not have been too poor

to afford paying for tickets on the Havana to Key West Ferry and have two homes so they could flit back and forth whenever the political windsock changed directions.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

29. ¡Exactamente!

[flamingdem]

35. nice upsidedown exclamation mark there son nt

[pintobean]

17. It's not important

Whatever his parents' reasons were, it doesn't effect him. He wasn't in on the decision. Trying to make it an issue makes us look petty. There are plenty of other reasons to oppose the man.

[EFerrari]

19. It is important. He was in on his own decision to LIE about his past

in order to assume the exile's martyr's mantle.

[pintobean]

20. It's not his past. It's his parents' past.

Why is this such an issue? He's not up for re-election for another 5 years and stated he wouldn't accept VP. :shrug:

[NNN0LHI]

26. It is because he used his parents past, untrue as it was, to launch his political career

[pintobean]

28. I guess I'll just stay "confused" and continue

to think this is unimportant. You can try me again in 4 1/2 years.

[EFerrari]

30. In Miami, lying about being exiled by Castro is like

lying about being a Navy Seal. Claiming a badge of honor you never earned. :)

[dkf]

22. He lied about his history to create a good story. What else is a fraud?

[pintobean]

23. Did he lie, or did his parents lie to him?

I don't know or care. No one will base their vote on this 5 years from now.

[dkf]

24. Biden got in trouble over a speech, Gore got into trouble over Love Story...

These things stay with you.

[ecstatic]

25. Even if his parents lied to him, by...oh say 18, he should have

been curious enough to do the math, like most of us do, to find out the truth. I'm sure most of us have at least calculated to see if our conception preceded marriage (firstborns), etc.

[Scuba]

18. Doesn't matter. The guy lied to make himself look better. n/t

[Bonhomme Richard]

27. You are using the term logic with baggers and that is mistake 1. n/t

[DonCoquixote]

31. As a Puerto Rican

I was born an American, like it or not, and have an inherent right to be here, more than the h1-b Visa types, More than the Tax-shelter seeking Euros, and others that infest Florida. Granted, said people tend to be welcomed more by this country than we are. I say this because the Cubans have been using politics to get advantages and aid none of us have gotten, especially by screaming "FREEDOM!." I can remember when Florida was a Democratic state, and how the Cubans changed that. I can remember the THUGS Tom Delay got to intimidate the people counting the votes in 2000, with the aid of the person they put in the Governor's mansion, Jeb Bush. I remember the way Marco Rubio and his Cubans stirred the racial pot, so much that Charlie Crist, a former GOP who also knew how to kiss Cuban ass, ran and divided the vote, putting little Marco in.

Now, Marco is a citizen; I will not aid the Teabagger narrative. I will be even blunter, in that America can frankly use a few more presidents that were the children of immigrants, as the WASP establishments like Yale do not seem to be churning out decent leaders anymore. But I will say that the issue with Rubio is the way the Cubans have milked issues for so long that they have perverted the very idea of America.

[eleny]

32. The thing is that Rubio may be manufacturing a family history to win hearts, minds & votes

If he's lying then his mendacity should make him lose support and hopefully his political career will go down the drain.

[DonCoquixote]

37. I hear you. but sadly

The truth is not needed in politics, especially Florida.

[eleny]

39. True. But I can see a number of the old folks down there deciding he's a fraud

I can just hear my dear old dad saying that way back when he was alive. Sitting around with his Florida neighbors and saying something like, "That guy, he's a fake". And that would be the end of Rubio in their minds.

The current governor may make them pay more attention in the next election. But what worries me about that election is the massive, high level tampering. Now there's something that keeps me awake at night. Can you even begin to imagine a Perry/Rubio ticket "winning" the election? Yeah, me too.

[stevedeshazer]

40. Bingo.

+1

Steve