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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:17 PM
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Some talk of a Democratic or progressive challengers to President Obama -Where are they?
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 09:54 PM by bigtree
No sign of any significant movement from the left to unseat the President, despite plenty of harsh criticism and complaints of betrayal and abandonment from some quarters.

It's getting late for any challenger (from the left) to enter the race with any expectation of a serious run, but I guess I can't rule out someone still emerging and casting themselves as convincingly enough of a progressive alternative to draw away some of the Democratic votes.

I'm inclined to think that the negative impact this presidential election on the incumbent of any significant opposition from the dissatisfied or opposed progressives will come more from their absence at the polls, or scattered among disparate alternatives, than from organizing behind any one candidate.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:20 PM
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1. Tic tock tick tock!
Time's a bitch, isn't it?
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:25 PM
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2. Boring me to death since last May...
They pontificate every month or so from behind the safety of their keyboard, but can never be troubled to actually reach out to the prospective candidate of their choice.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:28 PM
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3. So what happens if someone does announce a challenge?
The crying from the True Believers about how the party should be uniting behind Obama would be endless.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:34 PM
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10. Given that Obama has the overwhelming support of the party base...
I think the only crying would be from anyone foolish enough to sign up with the challenger, after Obama finished curb-stomping them.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:18 AM
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45. Not. Happening.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:29 PM
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4. Obama has an 82% approval rating from the Left.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:33 PM
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7. How is "the left" defined (for that stat)? nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:33 PM
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8. Liberal Democrats, per Gallup. nt
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:34 PM
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9. Liberal and Progressive Democrats.
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:35 PM
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11. Thanks
(to TheWraith, too)
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 12:18 AM
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29. self-described which assumes a coherant definition of liberal or progressive.
n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:36 PM
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12. loosely
as opposed to the right
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:42 PM
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15. Link to the poll
Scroll down a bit to see his ratings among Dems.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:29 AM
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34. OWS is immense and they certainly
understand that Obama is Wall Street -- and pro-corporate --

and they understood it in 2010 --

Obama took his mask off the day after the election and he can't take it back --

Further, he proceeded to move to the right with ever more pro-corporate decisions --

and pro-military/intelligence decisions.

It's not gonna work --

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:32 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:15 AM
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:32 PM
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6. Some people say he's still out here in the woods waiting for the chance to kill again. And I say...
...they're right!
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:39 PM
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13. 2 blank votes for Pres. in 2012 from here:
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 09:40 PM by blkmusclmachine
However, we WILL vote for REAL Democrats downballot from Obama. We don't vote for GOP policy dressed up as Democratic "bi-partisanship." That's rubbish. We won't be played for fools again, Mr. President.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:46 PM
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16. Good for you...


Sid
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 11:38 PM
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28. Two?
Just asking for clarification. No snark intended.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:41 PM
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14. Old news. I think most progressives are working with OWS now. nt
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:50 PM
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17. Obama isn't perfect, but have you looked at the GOP contenders?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:36 AM
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35. Great campaign slogan -- ROFL
No one is looking for "perfect" ---

But we are looking to vore for someone who doesn't wear a mask --

Someone who isn't buried in corporate/Wall St. money ---

Someone who has true human compassion and will speak for the sick the homeless

the unemployed -- all of our citizens who need MEDICARE FOR ALL --

All of our citizens who need SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID!!


Citizens who need and want justice -- not corporate decisions benefiting BP and

other polluters --

Citizens want to see the true criminals in our society brought to justice --

not those who require Medical Marijuana -- but those who have stolen from our

nation and damaged it financially in the meltdown.

Clearly Obama's Wall St./Elite team were picked to do just the opposite.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:53 PM
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18. There are 226 people running for president, 26 as Democrats
http://www.votesmart.org/election_president_search.php?type=alpha

Not saying I'm voting for them, but there's your answer.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:56 PM
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20. no Ted Kennedy there
. . . or even a Nader. No organization, no following.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:35 AM
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47. Randall A. Terry claims to be one of the Democrats on that list
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:55 PM
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19. The filing period for the New Hampshire primary opened on Monday...
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 09:57 PM by SidDithers
Republicans have been streaming into the state to file their papers. Joe Biden will visit NH tomorrow to file papers for Barack Obama.

The filing period closes Oct 28.

Sid
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:58 PM
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23. a formality
. . . getting late early for any serious challenge.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 10:11 PM
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25. Yup, only 9 days left...nt
Sid
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 10:20 PM
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26. 9 days
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 10:21 PM by bigtree
. . . for anyone other than obvious spoilers to step up and throw their hat in the ring.


"Throw in his hat, and with a spring get gallantly within the ring."

-Hamilton Reynolds, 1820
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:57 PM
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21. On Wall Street, I think. Holding his feet to the fire. FDR did not start out progressive.
The times made him that way.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 10:08 PM
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24. right, I get that
. . . he campaigns (governs) to appeal to the protestors. All good.

I wondered (more broadly than the query) about the consequence of the protesting on the election and the protestors' notion of how they expected or wanted that action to impact the prospects for a second term. The movement's wonderful to witness, and undoubtedly politically transforming, but does it have any intention regarding this election?
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libbyhart Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:58 PM
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22. Oh wonderful idea. [sarcastic]
Let's just divide the vote, or better yet sit it out. Look what happened in 2010 when these post were leaning the same way, that worked out so well. They almost got their wish and shut down the government. We need to swallow hard, I got mad at Obama also, but he's the best for now. I almost vomit every time I hear the re pugs talk, they are so anti-progressive, they're reptilian in thought. SO united we stand divided we fall, what do you fear more?
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 10:25 PM
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27. Well, I hear Bloomberg got a pretty impressive endorsement.
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 12:30 AM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 12:34 AM
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31. Why is it only the Obama-can-do-no-wrong folks who try to stir up a primary challenge around here?
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 12:37 AM by ClassWarrior
Hmmm?? Curious...

NGU.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:17 AM
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:22 AM
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46. sounds like you're projecting own insecurity
I didn't create the reality of our two party system and I don't have to answer for its shortcomings. My primary interest in this presidential election is in keeping republicans out of that office. With all that's complained about here about the President's policies and all the issues that folks who criticize the President claim to care so much about, it's always curious to find them so sanguine about the possibility of relinquishing that office to the neanderthals in the republican party.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 06:58 PM
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48. GOP & keystone
Please don't insult neanderthals. You'd have to go very far back in human evolution to find Republican.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:15 AM
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42. you can't be talking about me. I've aired my differences with the President here many times
I just don't wear them on my sleeve. More importantly, I'm knowledgeable enough and experienced enough to realize that there is more at stake and more to benefit from this presidency than to just focus solely on those differences I have with his policies or his actions.

I don't see how you can be so self-satisfied with such a myopic view.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:24 AM
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33. One major problem for challengers and all of us is the vast corporate $$ backing Obama --
Any challenger who might come forward -- someone fairly well known -- has to

look at the possibility of not only being defeated by that money -- but of being

completely destroyed, as Howard Dean was -- !!

Elites/corporations are making sure that there is no threat to their lies and myths --

or their candidates!!

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:41 AM
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36. It may only be a coincidence, but talk of Obama being primaried...
seemed to wane once the Republican debates started showing up on TV.

My theory: Folks saw them and were starkly reminded just how disastrous it would be to have one of those evil bozos in charge of the country.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:56 AM
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37. Your theory is ludicrous. OWS rendered a Dem primary
irrelevant. There's a new hoss in town.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:10 AM
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38. Sorry, I didn't realize that Obama had adopted the One Demand(s)...
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 02:11 AM by MilesColtrane
as his mission statement for a second term.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:34 AM
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40. nowhere to be f*cking found, you're absolutely correct on this.

why is an absolute, dumbfounding mistery, afaic.


Every people *deserves* its rulers - is that an ancient Chinese proverb, or did I dream that one?...
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:37 AM
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41. That is a sad reflection of the lack of choices and the overwhelming importance of money in politics
Yes, Americans do not have any real choices. But that is a symptom of the problem, not a reflection of the lack of one.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:16 AM
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43. You're probably right. nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:17 AM
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44. Randall Terry is running as a Democrat:
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