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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:32 PM Original message |
My father in law was in the hospital for three weeks and just got a bill for 1 million. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly. How is Medicare supposed to keep up with this? Crazy. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Only by having Congress re-regulate corporations .... and MEDICARE FOR ALL ... w/negotiation!! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. But keeping it as is so you can make sure there are "no cuts" is not the smart fight. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. If you're talking about Medicare, you have to stop CORPORATE crime .... |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
133. Keeping what as is? What is your point? You seem to be advocating |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #133 |
177. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS (FQHCs) solve the Medicare $$$$$ problem. |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
175. Trun the whole country over to VETERANS ADMINSTRATION MEDICAL CENTERS. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sadly wallectomies are the rule any longer |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. awful |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. lWhat the... Please tell us what it consisted of. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. My Mom's two- or three-day hospital bill for a hip replacement was $57,000 |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I hear yea, give me the Canadian system any day. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. fleecing while they can I'd guess |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
184. What makes you think that? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. They raise the prices to pay for Medicaid and Medicare shortfalls |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Yes, it is all bad, for the same reasons a for-profit fire department is all bad |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
111. in France it would be illegal to not help the thirsty man |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Here it would be argued that the salesman WAS |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
76. The for profit system has |
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Lars77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
154. As a European studying in the US, this is a topic i spend a lot of time on |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #154 |
164. Even more striking |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #164 |
171. Incredible! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #154 |
169. The woman was right. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
170. Capitalism has shown itself to be a complete failure. The for-profit |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
102. The "official bills" are structured to pad in as much money as possible |
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smaug (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
125. If so, then |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Unbridled greed |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. It's not the doctors actually |
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KathieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. True. I broke my leg last year and had to have surgery... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. It is, however, the whole system and doctors are part of that... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
149. Check the differentials in pay |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. GP's make around $200k a year, "Specialists" make over $600k a year |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I wouldn't want to be a doctor who treats pancreatic cancer under your model |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. The uk does pay specialists partially under this model |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
83. nadinbrzezinski |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:21 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. It is the truth. He should've told it like out is. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. RegieRocker |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:34 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. You betcha. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
158. Diclotican lives in Norway. English is a second language. He may make some |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #89 |
163. Totally agree. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #83 |
104. I know, but our right wing is finally losing strenth. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. I'm not an encyclopedia for the AMA so there may be things I don't know about medicine |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
99. No, there are simply some cancers |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
118. Did you misunderstand my previous post? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
136. You are describing the medical system that exists within |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. I live in the USA and am proposing Universal Healthcare for America |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Personally I'd extend free education to Ph.D or beyond in all fields |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
157. 100% agreed. Our priorities are 180 degrees off the mark. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
127. Damn big pharma! Not curing death! |
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sweetapogee (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
165. I'm not an encyclopedia for the AMA so there may be things I don't know about medicine |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Average pay, aka median, is not even close |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. unfortunately most chronic patients will never really get better - the best that can be done most of |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Your post is a denunciation of Big Pharma more that anything else |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. unfortunately, many chronic conditions are the result of major organs being damaged beyond the point |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #67 |
106. Tell me how do you cure diabetes? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Ah, the old attempting to get me to prove a negative. Very clever! (not) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
134. Thanks for playing |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #134 |
144. I hope you do well with the diabetes, my mom had it and she lived to 84. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #144 |
152. The tools to cure chronic diseases are ten years old |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #152 |
161. I said what have they cured in the last 20 years |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #161 |
176. I am seeing HIV patients live longer because of meds |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #176 |
191. Treatment of symptoms and NOT a cure - that is exactly the point I'm making |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #152 |
166. "like oh polio...what about small pox?" -- 1950 and 1796 |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Yes actually |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. I understand your position. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
187. It is not just Big Pharma that is the problem - we spend something |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
105. Actually things like cholesterol and diabetes can be treated |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #105 |
174. Which will be the intent of my free clinic- catch em early on |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. What???? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Those were my suggestions for how to fix the outrageously expensive system |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
77. I agree with you on the 36 hour rotations. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
73. One GP I know makes 60k a year, the other makes about 85k |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
92. Sounds like he's not here in Dallas |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. He does not work just 40 yours a week, by the way |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
124. I couldn't have made a better case for Universal healthcare if I tried. Thank you. |
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plunati43 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #124 |
140. Universal Health Care? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #140 |
151. Take a look at my sig line |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #124 |
159. But not a case for unbridled greed of doctors as was the posit... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #92 |
107. How much does he pay employees, office space |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. You got it. But when you start with a million it isn't too devastating to pay |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #123 |
132. The point is that he's not taking gross |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #132 |
150. I'm in Dallas if that's what you meant |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. My brother is number three in treating Chrons in the us |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #153 |
167. Yup. That's why I posted earlier, if a doctor wants money then move to Texas |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #167 |
178. Two or three counties do not |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #167 |
182. Texas is alpha and omega |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. It is...in that we all agree...ok 70% of Americans. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
185. $200 K is a very good living, |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
94. Specialist pay is wildly inaccurate |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
108. Specialists get more if patient improves? Like Republicans want teachers paid more if student does |
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elias7 (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
93. I got billed $6,000 for my daughter's ER visit. MD charges: $800 |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
122. 73% of your doctors want single payer |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Looking forward to changes with HCR in 2014 |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. WHAT THE HELL?! nt |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. These stories are scaring the bejesus out of me: I just turned 50 and I can feel |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I wouldn't let "this individual post" scare you. It lacks detail..but it's more true |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Elderly nursing home patients on occasion do. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Are you current with this. Might have been true over 10 years ago...but, none |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Thanks for the info. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. I was in the hospital that long with H1N1 flu |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Yes, but 'other countries' won't take over 50 Americans |
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Paka (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
116. Not true. |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. What story? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. He needs to ask for an itemized bill.... |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Send the bill to the Wall Street banksters |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. How could he have been in the hospital for Three Weeks? They don't allow that |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. He was in a rehab unit for the last ten days. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Does he have Insurance? What kind or none? |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. United Healthcare with 6k deductible/Medicare Part A. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. It is atrocious...would have thought Hospital had some agreement with United Health Care, though. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
145. Will be interesting to know what ends up being covered when everything sorts itself out. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
142. At this point, it hardly matters. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. BTW ...my 90 year old Dad Broke hip...Hospital 5 Days and two weeks in Rehab... |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. I work in a hospital and know with certainty that long stays happen frequently. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
160. Sometimes people are in the hosptial |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'd be curious to know how much the actual procedures are and what percentage is inflated for profit |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. not buying it... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. How about 97k for 3 days? W/image |
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mile18blister (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. Try 310K for 5 days in the hospital 6 years ago. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. How did you manage to settle? |
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mile18blister (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I found out there was a pre-paid cash price of only 16K. |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
131. That's extortion, plain and simple. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
80. Yargh, that's obscene |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
101. And I don't believe you. nt |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
147. Because...??? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #147 |
183. The OP didn't bother to post the full fact situation. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. So it wouldn't be alarmist if he'd said the bill was a measly $100,000/week? (nt) |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Any chance of posting a brief breakdown of the charges? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. United was billed $46,000 for my wifes stay in a hospital over the weekend. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. How much is covered by whatever you have, though. That's what we need to know... |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. amazing. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's f-ed up! |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. Outrages.... You might want to see who lobbies Baucus. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wall Street and its power over our country andalmost all politicians nt |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. Yes, my mom's bill for 17 days was $441,000 - seven yrs ago |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. did your signature mean that her hospital bill was your responsibility? |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Yes, it would have been - except we had a great advocate |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. it's great to find an advocate like that. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. did your signature mean that her hospital bill was your responsibility? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. small recent surgery resulted in bills totally $20,000, insurance took care of most of it |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #47 |
90. The bills started coming in about a week or so ago for an outpatient surgery I had in August. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
51. The government sets the prices they will pay the doctors. Do you |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
52. I believe it. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. Well, obvoiusly he should have shopped around and gotten a bargin. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. If only he'd had a medical savings account. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. He's a very, very active Democrat in North Carolina. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Heh. If they aren't getting it by now, they're never going to get it. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. "You will not shed this helplessness until nearly 20" |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I just did the math on that |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. Medical care prices are TOO DAMN HIGH |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. when we had our son almost two deaceds ago our bill from 1 hospital was a quarter million |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
72. WTF??? Was his hospital bed located in the Four Seasons? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:02 AM Response to Reply #72 |
88. point. we had a redue of one of our hospitals. looks like a damn four seasons |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
74. A good friend's sister has been fighting stage one lymphoma |
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sfpcjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
75. It's ridiculous. Every little thing is $2,000. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:08 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Profit. That is what is fucked up. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
82. onehandle |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
84. When my brother was in hospital we figured it came to $1,000 an hour. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
85. What on earth can they do that costs a million bucks for 3 weeks? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
87. People have no idea until they incur major medical expenses. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #87 |
103. Exactly, just had Appendectomy, 42K. In hospital 4 days. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Hubbie had a incomplete spinal cord injury: |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
91. This would make an excellent sign at OWS n/t |
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econoclast (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
97. How did we get here? A thought experiment ... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
189. The thing we can't really be consumers of health care because there is little way to know |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
100. Contact your local Fox affiliate ... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
109. I honestly don't know anyone can handle these bills. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
112. Someone has to pay for the Republican health care plan... |
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BrendaBrick (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
113. "Medical Tourism" |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
114. jeezus christ. |
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Dont call me Shirley (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
115. Hospitals for profit, like disgusting Bill Frist's Humana hospitals |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
120. I was in hospital for three months and I saved money |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
121. That doesn't surprise me........ |
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Altoid_Cyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
126. This is from two years ago, but it still points out the disparity between the US and German systems. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
128. The name of this country should be changed to "Ripoff Haven, Inc." None is |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
129. Outrageous |
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northoftheborder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
130. I'm old enough to remember when the medical "system" was not like it is today. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #130 |
143. Same here -- and I had to go to the ER once |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
135. what i would do in that case |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
137. Americans are paying more money for crappy care |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
139. The GOP thinks he should have a 1 million tucked away in an HSA to cover the costs. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
141. a million? Thats a 1 with 6 zeros |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
148. I recently went in for a minor outpatient procedure |
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DesMoinesDem (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
155. Reminds me of the article How American Health Care Killed My Father. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
156. Surely he has enough in his Health Savings Account to pay for that. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
162. Is Dr Evil running the hospital? |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
172. Sounds like they left out a few zero's |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
179. That's insane. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
180. When my brother's 2003 hip replacement surgery sent him into a deep coma that he was not expected |
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nineteen50 (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
181. He should have gone to Iraq |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
190. sorry to get into this thread so late. I used to pay medical claims for a big health insurance co. |
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BrendaBrick (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
192. Wouldn't this ridiculous, exhorbitant amount |
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