Cain wins big in South Carolina tea party straw poll

[In Other News]

Source: CNN

Las Vegas, Nevada (CNN) - Surging Republican presidential contender Herman Cain has picked up another morale booster in the race for the GOP nomination.

The conservative businessman decisively won a tea party straw poll held in Columbia, South Carolina, Saturday afternoon.

Cain captured an eye-popping 55% of the vote. His closest challenger, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, picked up 14.5%. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann garnered 8% to come in third.

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/15/cain-wins-big-in-south-carolina-tea-party-straw-poll/?hpt=po_bn1

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I've only posted three paragraphs of this story, as the entirety consisted of six.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Tea Party poll. Hehe.

Yeah, that's big news.

Like being proclaimed "Biggest nut in the cocktail mix"

[customerserviceguy]

2. What's interesting

is not only the lack of TP support for Romney (no surprise), but the fact that Perry couldn't even get 8% in this poll. Frankly, that amazes me, and while Perry has probably written off Iowa, and certainly New Hampshire, his whole strategy depends on winning South Carolina.

There's a decent chance that might not happen.

[In Other News]

6. Perry writing off Iowa?

Don't you mean Romney? After all, the IRP is heavily influenced by fundamentalist Christians.

[customerserviceguy]

8. From my readings, he's not putting a terribly major emphasis there

Of course, he'd like to do well there, but it's my impression that he plans to run the table in the South. That should finish off Bachmann, if she's still been drawing oxygen.

[In Other News]

12. But it's Perry's natural turf...

Romney is expected to win New Hampshire. If Perry wants the nom, he has to buttress against Mitt beforehand.....

[customerserviceguy]

37. Yes, he'd like that

But it's not gonna happen:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html

He's polling just barely north of Newtie right now. Frankly, Midwestern Repukes are not like Southern Repukes, and even Perry knows it. The primary/caucus calendar seems to favor the latter type of Neanderthal.

If Perry can give up Iowa to Cain, or even a resurrected Bachmann (little joke there!), he'll be happy, because he knows neither one of them can do well in the South.

[AlinPA]

3. Cain is cleaning up. Romney's money won't help since the base has dropped him.

[Diclotican]

4. AlinPA

AlinPA

To be honest. I doubt "the base" really was so into Romney at all.. He are not that extreme as they want it

Diclotican

[AlinPA]

5. You are correct. He never had the base behind him.

[customerserviceguy]

9. He's got two insurmoutable problems

First is his reputation as a flip-flopper, willing to say whatever he needs to, to get elected. The tea partiers tend to be purists, and while they might ignore one or two little missteps, enough of Romney's Massachusetts campaigns are on You Tube for them to overlook the pile of feints he's made to the left.

The other is his religion, and not only will the fundies never vote for him in the primaries, they'll vote for a religious third party candidate in November, even if it means having Obama for another four years.

[jmowreader]

17. Three insurmountable problems

The thing the Repukes call Obamacare, specifically the mandate, was inspired by Romney's Massachusetts healthcare plan.

Even though Romney is the only person over there who...okay, fuck it, he's the only Republican currently running for president who is sane enough to be acceptable to anyone who isn't in the very, very narrow slice of the political spectrum called Tea Party Nation...the teabaggers will NOT allow the voters to choose between the guy who signed Obamacare and the guy who gave him the idea for it.

[GoCubsGo]

22. He has four insurmountable problems

Before he was Governor of MA, he made a living buying and merging corporations. In the process of making them "leaner and meaner", he put thousands of people out of work. He was a corporate raider. That will not go over well with many. In addition, one of the latest headlines at Huffington Post indicates that he's already collecting far more donations from Wall St. than is President Obama. The die-hard, I-only-vote-republican types will likely turn a blind eye to that, but I doubt the rest will.

[bluestate10]

26. Romney's time as a corporate raider and his destroying jobs and lives

ultimately will be what does him in. Romney loves to mention his Staples success, but that was small in jobs compared to ones Romney destroyed. Plus Staples jobs are minimum wage.

[customerserviceguy]

35. Yes, that last one is a problem in the general election

but I don't think it means squat as far as his getting the nomination goes.

[Diclotican]

33. customerserviceguy

customerserviceguy

True, mr Romney is a person who easy flip flop, when needed.. Maybe he is smarter than most of the right this days.. It is better to compromise, than to never get anything been doing.. And he have had the disadvange of been couth on camera... Youtube is the enemy of most politicans this days... But that maybe also wil keep many politicans honest - or at least not as lying as they often are..

And the other big issue is the LDS membership. The "fundies" would never vote for a member of the LDS church, for many, the LDS shurch is a "cult" and therefore more dangrous than having a black man in the Hvite house (pun intended, as many of them was horrified that Obama was voted President in 2008)

But then, Romney at least, have a little chance against Obama.. The other foregrunners have no chance in hell, against the sitting President.. Even if he treat them with far more respect than they deserve, the sitting president, wil murder them in debates... Not that I honesty belive ROnney vil be the next president of the United States... I rather doubt it..

Diclotican

[rurallib]

7. Republicans have been a solid 77% "Not Romney"

[valerief]

21. What does that matter to an electronic voting machine with proprietary software?

:shrug:

[Old and In the Way]

10. This is shaping up to a brokered convention, I think.

No one seems to have a plurality, nor all of the necessary attributes to get the Republican voter to coalesce around. Each candidate seems to have "non-starter" fatal flaws with substantial segments of these voters. If the current crop of losers stumble their way into the convention, spltting and holding < than 20% of the committed candidates, it could provide lots of entertainment - ideological purges/extreme litmus tests, scapegoating various voter segments, walkouts, and 3rd party formations. Sets up someone new to arrive on the scene and become the de facto standard bearer. And that solution could still piss off every primary voter who sees their candidate picked by TPTB.

[In Other News]

11. I think you're on to something.....

Not being an American, I've been reluctant to express my suspicion that the convention in Tampa might very well be deadlocked, paving the way for a "savior," whom I strongly suspect might be a former Florida governor...

[abogado]

18. Well, I'm an American (aren't Canadians Americans too?) and I think you are exactly right

If Romney doesn't make some miraculous comeback in the coming 9 months, I do think some Deus Ex Machina will come out of the woodwork. And yes, it could even be Jeb. EEEK

[workinclasszero]

32. Whoa! You might be onto something there!

Jeb will save the day!:puke:

[tanyev]

36. I don't think so.

I think Jeb and any other possible candidates still tethered to reality are keeping their powder dry until 2016.

[KoKo]

14. You mean the "Tea Party" would vote for a Black South Carolina Candidate?"

I thought that the whole South of the US hated Barack Obama because he was Black?

What's going on here? RW Racist beating Dems at their own game?

It's pure crap from Tea Party, of course, but they SURE AS HELL KNOW how TO CORRUPT Parties and MESSAGE...don't they?

:-(

[golfguru]

23. Yap, GOP convention in 2012 will be humdinger n/t

[KoKo]

13. WOW! Sure throws that "Racist SC'linians Meme" outta the window that Tea Party is Racist

and that's why they don't like Barack Obama.

Amazing. :eyes:

[Initech]

15. Now it's "who's the biggest shill for Koch Industries"?

Apparently Romney, Bachmann, Palin, and everyone else didn't have it, but as a former member of AFP - Cain has it.

[KoKo]

16. Yeah...It mus t be KOCH WARS ARISING! All be BE AWARE!

:eyes: Reminds me of the "Mellon - Scaife" Scare when Clinton was under Impeachment.

things get weird...more weird and then "Go Out to Space!" :eyes: :silly:

[JoePhilly]

19. They probably think he is one of the "good ones".

You ever been to SC? I have some property there. And being in my mid 40s, white, about 6 foot tall, and a bit thicker in the middle, I look like I fit in with the tea party folks. And you might be surprised at what they will say when they think you are one of them.

Conservative racists don't attack all blacks ... unless they speak out against entrenched white interests. They also know that they need to watch their language so that they can act surprised when something they say, other than the n-word, is perceived as racist. From their point of view, if you don't use the n-word, then no one can prove you are a racist. You can use almost any other adjectives, just not the n-word.

Of course they are PISSED they can't use the n-word ... they HATE having to come up with new dog whistles. The n-word gave them so much power. And they miss that power.

As for the GOP embracing blacks .... let's consider Colin Powell. He was an up and coming black Republican. Conservative. War hero. His name was thrown around as a VP or even Presidential GOP candidate. He was "one of the good ones".

But he voted for Obama over McCain. And he said so out loud. And suddenly, Limbaugh, the mouth of the GOP says Powell is a racist. Powell is now dead to the GOP.

Nothing went out the window ... racism is alive and well in SC, and in the GOP.

[GoCubsGo]

28. Yeppers...

I can't tell you how many people here have automatically assumed that just because I am white I am a republican. And, racist. And, homophobic. And, a Christian... What an eye-opener. I have made comments that have been misconstrued as opposing things like affirmative action and such, only to have some of them go into a tirade about how (insert your favorite racist stereotypical accusation here) the "blacks" (and/or other minorities) are. Boy, how they love to bash the NAACP, too. That's one of their substitutes for using the n-word. And, yep, they are pissed about not being able to use the real word.

And, if anyone thinks Cain will get very far here, I have two words for you: Alan Keyes.

[JoePhilly]

30. Oh yea ... in the right setting, you can say something that you think is

non-political, non-racial ... and part of what they hear is "this guys is one of us!!" ... and then the stuff they say is totally insane.

I'm torn between (1)continuing to let the crazy right wing racists self identify, so I know who they are, or (2) calling them out.

Here in NC, I tend to select #1. I tend to avoid engaging them but I can't maintain it. I had an Obama sign and magnet on my cars, and I have a tea bag guy 2 houses down. So he knows to not assume that I agree with him, and he won't come close to talking politics near me. Which is good, because if I am there, he can't bring it up with other neighbors.

[KoKo]

20. So ...does this put the lie to Tea Party is Racist against Obama?

:shrug:

[golfguru]

25. If they nominate Herb Cain....

that would indeed make it difficult to label Teabaggers as racist. Nutty? Yes.

[Glimmer of Hope]

24. I am confused.

[Historic NY]

27. How much did the votes cost & what was the menu?

[sce56]

29. Uhh those are sentences not paragraphs.

A simple sentence, also called an independent clause, contains a subject and a verb, and it expresses a complete thought.

A compound sentence contains two independent clauses joined by a coordinator. The coordinators are as follows: for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so. (Helpful hint: The first letter of each of the coordinators spells FANBOYS.) Except for very short sentences, coordinators are always preceded by a comma.

A complex sentence has an independent clause joined by one or more dependent clauses. A complex sentence always has a subordinator such as because, since, after, although, or when or a relative pronoun such as that, who, or which.

A paragraph consists of several sentences that are grouped together. This group of sentences together discuss one main subject. In U.S. formal academic English, paragraphs have three principal parts. These three parts are the topic sentence, body sentences, and the concluding sentence. We will also talk briefly about details in paragraphs.

I for one am tired of being told my post has to be edited when it is only four paragraphs but by the New, Internet, English standard the OP is considered to be three Paragraphs....


Now I freely admit I was a High school dropout but I did get my GED in one try with out studying, but I do know the difference between a Sentence and a Paragraph. Oh yes and thank the computer gods for spell check even despite it's lack of grammar checking.

[UTUSN]

31. Bwah-HAH & do I need to explain?!1 n/t

[malaise]

34. KochCain will blow your brain

:evilgrin:

[and-justice-for-all]

38. Straw Polls are all show and do not mean shit...nt