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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:44 AM
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More banks walking away from homes, adding to housing crisis
More banks walking away from homes, adding to housing crisis
Research shows 1,896 red flag homes in Chicago appear to have been abandoned during foreclosure process

A new type of property is adding to neighborhood blight: the bank walkaway.

Research to be released Thursday, the first of its kind locally, identifies 1,896 "red flag" homes in Chicago — most of them are in distressed African-American neighborhoods — that appear to have been abandoned by mortgage servicers during the foreclosure process, the Woodstock Institute found.

Abandoned foreclosures are increasing as mortgage investors determine that, at sale, they can't recoup the costs of foreclosing, securing, maintaining and marketing a home, and they sometimes aren't completing foreclosure actions. The property, by then usually vacant, becomes another eyesore in limbo along blocks where faded signs still announce block clubs.

"The steward relationship between the servicer and the property is broken, particularly in these hard-hit communities," said Geoff Smith, senior vice president of Woodstock, a Chicago-based research and advocacy group. "The role of the servicer is to be the person in charge of that property's disposition. You're seeing situations where servicers are not living up to that standard."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/foreclosure/ct-biz-0113-walkaway--20110113,0,7716930.story
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:58 AM
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1. does squatting become a right then?
at what point do the homeless have the right to take an abandoned house and turn it into a home?

I think the cities should do the correct thing and fine the hell outa the banks that try this. Code Enforcement is your friend according to the powers that be here in sunny floriduh.
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elifino Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:04 AM
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2. My question is who is responsible for the property taxes?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:09 AM
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14. I guess when they don't pay the taxes, they in essence abandon the home because then
it can be seized by the local municipality.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:46 PM
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22. The banks obviously have money, and they should be sued for the blight they created. nt
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xor Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:11 AM
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3. So people were kicked out of their homes just so the banks could abandon them..
There must be a better way than this.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:18 AM
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7. That was my thought too
When I was a kid growing up in the 60's I thought that by the 21st century (seemed very far into the future) we would have made strides towards a more enlightened and just civilization -- but if anything we are taking steps backwards.

Yes, there has got to be a better relationship between the financial world and housing.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:58 AM
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11. Yep, same here. I envisioned a far far different world today - it seemed in the
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 11:22 AM by RKP5637
60's there was much hope for a more enlightened and fair populace in the 21st century, now I feel we are just going backward in many ways, each day, in many areas.

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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:07 AM
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9. That's capitalism. Is not enough to be rich. Other's must be poor and lick your boots n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:07 AM
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13. It is, isn't it - one feels more wealthy by watching others suffer. It is in
many ways the ultimate in bullying. Many must lose so some can win, and then the winners will make the losers suffer as best they can so they can bask in their aggrandizement of their exploits of wealth and worshiping of greed. Runaway capitalism is far from a healthy society.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:32 PM
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25. Yes.
Great quote!
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:16 AM
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4. Gee, maybe the banks should agree to more loan modifications then.
Something like only 12% of loan modification requests are approved. Why not work with homeowners who need some help? Maybe not at all those getting a modification would be able to hold on to their homes in the long run, but many would so why not give people a chance??

But no, the banks would rather throw people out instead of working with them, abandon the house, screw the city/county out of property taxes and let the house become a blight on the neighborhood. And, to add insult to injury, these banks got bailout money by the truckload.

Bastards.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:12 AM
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16. Yep, the banksters do not give a F about this country or the people. Many banks
are bigger than countries. Their only interest is money and greed, and our gov. has helped that out quite well. Many citizens are moving into serfdom and they don't even get what's going on ... so sad.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:57 AM
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5. if it's 1896 in chicago -- imagine what's out there all over. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:16 AM
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18. A lot of it's hidden out of sight, out of mind. That's the plan, and one sure
won't hear the MSM reporting on it much. MSM wants us to believe we live in la la land, everything is just peachy and we're all OK. Good investigative reporting is squeezed out by MSM.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 08:09 AM
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6. The 'servicer' is in it to make money. Period. End of sentence. Once the
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 08:10 AM by bluerum
possibility of making money no longer exists they write it off.

But they gouge the rest of their customers to make up for it. They get tax breaks and free fed money too. Must be nice to not be accountable for anything.


On edit : go with a local credit union. Drive out the big banks.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:49 AM
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8. What steward relationship?
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 09:49 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
I believe the author presumes something that is not there. The lenders have no responsibility to the city or neighborhood legally.

There are a couple of interesting things here thought:

- Abandoned prior to foreclosure means the last owners are still on the books. It also means they were never forced out. If the house is empty...what happened?

- As others have said, code enforcement is your friend. Citations need to issued for lender owned homes that are not maintained, especially when it involves safety and sanitation.

- If the property is truly abandoned by the bank, the city can seize it and sell it for taxes. Takes about a year, but it is a way to have much lower cost houses available. It requires the city to be aggressive and care about getting it done.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:12 AM
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10. It also requires that the city have enough...
staff left to complete the tax sale.

Cities are laying off like crazy.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:43 PM
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23. They could outsource it.
The advantage to the city is the return of the property to the tax rolls, a long term benefit. The effort is to get any creditors to be forced or voluntarily relinquish its claim on the property and get some payment on the back taxes and fines. Use that to pay the company working on it.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 03:03 AM
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27. Article lays it out.
"For its report, Woodstock culled data from the city's vacant properties registry, as well as buildings identified to the city as vacant by municipal departments, foreclosure court filings made from 2006 to the first half of 2010, foreclosure auctions and property transfers. Some of the 1,896 properties flagged by Woodstock as likely walkaways could, in fact, still work toward a resolution in the foreclosure process, but 40 percent of those homes had been in the foreclosure process for more than 18 months.

Woodstock believes its projections are conservative because lenders also decide to write off their investments in properties before filing initial foreclosure actions. For only those 1,896 homes, Woodstock pegs the cost to the city, if it needed to seize, secure and demolish them, at $36 million.



People lose jobs and have to relocate. Don't want to stay in a neighborhood that's becoming blighted. Can't afford the bills. etc.

Banks are taking their sweet time in foreclosing, mostly to maintain the appearance of solvency.

If the properties had value, the banks would eventually take possession. The city won't be able to sell them, they must be destroyed.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:04 AM
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12. Reminds me of how Harlem used to be, blocks of abandoned buildings and crack dens
Maybe artists and squatters will move in, turn gardens into the abandoned lots.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:10 AM
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15. Did the city eventually take over those properties, firehose?
Pleas share what you can remember.

TIA
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:55 PM
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24. I know more about specific buildings in the lower east side
Downtown, some of the buildings sat empty and squatters took them over. Some were drug dens, some more like artists squats. By the late 80's some of those buildings successfully turned into homesteading buildings and low income co-ops like HDFC's, where the tenants form a long term agreement with the city. Some buildings had to be demolished and community gardens were put in the lots. Sometimes the city took possession of the property and eventually a developer would buy it.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:15 AM
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17. Aren't our banks the greatest of Americans? What patriotism. To be commended for thinking
about their country. With all due sarcasm.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:20 AM
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19. And they are too big to fail, we must worship at their feet. Praise be to
the banksters almighty!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:37 AM
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20. K & R !!!
:kick:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:44 AM
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21. K&R
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delightfulstar Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:02 PM
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26. This is bad all around...
Fewer properties on the tax rolls means less revenue for the city, and could translate into even more city job cuts, loss of services, etc., not to mention crime and blight. The city needs to get a handle on this, or they will have a Detroit-type problem on their hands. Chicago is my hometown, and I'd hate to see it go downhill that way.
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