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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:15 AM
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Yet more info about missing KC baby
(source is KMBC, channel 9 from Kansas City broadcast. As soon as it hits printed media I'll provide link.)

KMBC reported this morning that on Friday police interviewed a teen neighbor who is "of interest" in the baby's disappearance. The teen had been in the home that day, knew his/her way around. KCPD has also obtained a DNA sample from the teen.

And for those who missed the California tip that no one wants to talk about (yet is still on the table, especially with the info about the teen):

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29420106/detail.html

Oh, and the parents are still cooperating with the police. They've never stopped. News reports say that they've been in talks the entire time but needed to stop on Thursday after 11 hours of questioning where they accused the mother nonstop.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:18 AM
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1. oh god, i just hope that baby is ok
this whole story breaks my heart
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:22 AM
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2. The parents have been blamed everywhere,
including on here, since day one. If they're taking dna from a local teen it sounds like the parents really were not involved.

California? Maybe the baby was stolen and sold.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:29 AM
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3. that is what i hope
then she might be reunited with her family. this is a parent's worst nightmare.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:34 AM
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4. The parents have set up an account for donations
with the purpose of offering a reward, according to news reports.

I really don't think they did it. This case is so bizarre that, in my mind, it actually becomes plausible.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:35 AM
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5. re: our discussion last night
I hope and pray that I'm wrong about the rumor and that the baby still is alive out there some where, I was just saying it makes sense with the way the investigation is going.

After all, the search for a live baby ended pretty quickly with them already looking for a body in the woods the next day:

"KMBC's Cliff Judy reported that Kansas City Fire search and rescue crews rappelled down the side of a steep drop-off at 34th Terrace and North Myrtle, looking for Irwin.

A battalion chief at the site of the search told Judy that "There's a reason we're here," but said nothing more."

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29381804/detail.html

and then the landfill for many hours a few days later. The media and family are the only ones thinking she might still be alive, but the police obviously know otherwise.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 08:43 AM
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6. If police obviously know otherwise
the tip out of California would have long been disputed. Someone is leaking the info and it's not KCPD. Another neighbor supposedly leaked the info about the teen neighbor.

They kept that neighbor quiet, even while searching a landfill and all but actually saying the parents did it. That tells me they suspect the neighbor and that the info wasn't supposed to be leaked.

And per yesterday's conversation-if they thought the house was the murder scene no one would have access in and out. Not the family, not national media sources. The FBI is involved and they would have shut the place down. (Believe me-FBI is a nightmare that no one asks for. Once they are on scene they tend to take over. And they were known to be at the landfill.) Also, that info would have quickly leaked and everyone would have reported it. No reports nearly a week later of that info.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:42 AM
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11. The police have handled this horribly from day one
I don't see any evidence that the parents are involved. Never have seen that side of it.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:03 AM
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7. The idea of police lying to the parents is sickening
And if the police released an official statement that the parents were no longer cooperating, that's planting doubt in the minds of the public in an attempt to sway public opinion.


BTW, I believe it's always wrong to lie. And even more dissappointing that police use it as a tactic. That our society allows this is disgusting. The ends don't justify the means. The means justify the end.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:05 AM
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8. But the parents are still vilified, even here on DU.
I've worked with officers and I know how they are. They release false info more often than you'll ever know. They also will allow reporters to ask questions and then let them jump to conclusions.

Best thing I ever did was get out of that work.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:47 AM
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12. Not just here on DU. Almost everyone I talk to about this is convinced the parents did it.
They live very close to where I work. So we talk about it every day. And I am the only one who thinks the parents didn't do anything. Same with my family and friends.

It's sad that people just jump to the conclusion that Mom or Dad had to do it.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:03 PM
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15. Most of the people I work with believe the same,
as do most of the police I know. It's interesting how one of the few officers I know that think the parents didn't do it is actually a detective. He's the one that pointed out that there is no way they could have fully processed the home and released it in such a short time.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:54 AM
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14. Growing up, I was taught to respect the police
They make that difficult when they give no respect back.

And I realize I'm broadbrushing here, but it looks bad my friends.

guessing that most who go into law enforcement because they want to do good and help people. But what does being dishonest do to one's self-image? Just because, that's the way it's done? I think it would become a terrible burden.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:38 AM
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9. At this point, we don't know what all the police knows....
and it's unfair to the victim to not do everything possible to find her and bring her justice. It's better for the police to do whatever they need to do to find out the truth, which they will do regardless of what you read on DU, than to let killers go free. There are too many of cases out there exactly like this one every year and 99% of them have the same ending. It would be a far bigger crime to ignore statistical probability, especially with such strange circumstances in this case, than to rough the parents up a little bit to try to find out the truth.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:05 PM
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16. And yet again
you discuss this. Are you one of the leads on the case? I just spoke with a KC area reporter about the wet floors and she acted like she had no idea what I was talking about. (I won't mention her name because it identifies not only her but could also possibly identify me down the road-something I don't want to do. I will say that this reporter has been in the area for many, many years.)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:40 AM
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10. I knew there had to be another angle to this!
Teen neighbor. Hmmm.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:06 PM
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17. Check your pm nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:50 AM
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13. i dont know what is up. nor does anyone. appreciate you keeping us posted
as far as the police go, i would not want to handcuff them on getting truth. if i see they refuse to look at all angles cause of closeminded and directing only at parents without cause, then i will be all over police. but we really dont know yet, hwat the police have and what they are doing.

curious case
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:11 PM
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18. There's something going on with the case.
I'm very curious about the teen. I noticed how KCPD felt the need to sit on the teen information and that it was only leaked through someone else, not the department or family. No one is denying the teen info either so I wonder what's really going on.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:32 PM
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19. OMG check out this hit piece from Fox
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:46 PM
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20. Rate it down...maybe the "report" will disappear.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:59 PM
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21. Yet in the piece
the Bradleys said they didn't think she could do something to her children.

And lol at his ex living in Marshall but he has custody. I lived there and if she's there it might just have something to do with drugs. That town is notorious for its drug use-it's about the only reason people purposely move there, unless they have a job waiting for them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:14 PM
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22. I had that same thought
I had a student from there. And that's all I'm going to say.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:22 PM
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23. Student from Marshall?
Probably behind the class, lots of behavior/emotional problems.

I know exactly what you saw. That town is full of drugs and is notorious for also have a prevalent caste-like system.

I graduated from high school in that town and I personally wouldn't send my dog to obedience school there. It's worthless.
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