Most people aren't qualified to discuss PC vs. MAC

[snooper2]

Unless you can explain how forward error correction works or what a sector is(no cheating) you are just users.

So buy the one that is that is the most pretty or the one where farmville looks the best and be happy.



That' all for now :)

[Puglover]

1. Most people have better things to do.

I have both.

That's all for now. :)

[Enrique]

2. which one does farmiville look best on?

:shrug:

[Whisp]

3. I know that Macs are crispy and quick with the click

PCs are sort of mushy, like a soggy quilt, or manure. So I guess Farmville is better on a PC?

:P

[Champion Jack]

4. Maybe, but I'm definitely qualified to know what I like

[HopeHoops]

5. I'll agree with you there, but it isn't just PC vs. MAC - it is all of the players.

I worked on one of the first IBM PC's that came out after a few years of working with Apple IIs. It was a clunky, slow, green-glow piece of shit. It got worse after M$ took over the OS while all of the other players (Commodore, Atari, Zenith, Sun, DEC) produced increasingly stronger products. The pointy-haired bosses just saw the letters "I", "B", and "M". My response was generally, "So do I, don't forget to wash after you wipe."

[Demit]

6. I bought the one my industry uses the most. Then plugged it in & played.

And watched friends who bought the other kind spend whole afternoons trying to get their peripherals to work.

[MineralMan]

7. You know, most people don't really give a crap about the

technology. It doesn't really have anything to do with their choices. I do know about it, and it doesn't have much to do with my choices, either. Computers are essentially boxes that run software to most people, if they even recognize that they're using software. It is the software that people use that influences their decisions. That and price. The rest is of low interest.

These days, the name on the box is pretty unimportant. But, then, it always was.

[Shandris]

64. And this is why Anonymous and the hacker culture will...

...continue to gain more power as the years go by. They're still in their infancy to be honest, and no that's not an insult to them at all. It means they're still in the first few generations. Like a Model T would be compared to next year's cars, as time goes by the gulf between what they're working with now, and what will be available then, will be so large as to defy comprehension.

People treat computers like a toaster oven or a television, but that's an ignorant thing to do. Your television won't steal your life and ruin your chances of finding a job for the rest of your adult life. It's like treating a toy robot and an automobile the same way. Sure, they both move...but a toy robot won't leave you as a spatula stain on the road. There's a reason you're required to learn to drive. It's downright criminal that people aren't required to learn to use a computer with at least a modicum of forethought.

[MineralMan]

65. Actually, people SHOULD be able to use their computers

however they wish, without that risk. Fortunately, there are pretty decent protective software programs available that minimize the risk. Most people use one. What's downright criminal is the growing number of people who are maliciously trying to invade people's systems. That's literally criminal. We need more convictions for that and with very long prison sentences.

[NYC_SKP]

8. I go for the one that breaks less often and when it does is replaced or repaired for free.

Even after warranty, usually while I wait.

[pintobean]

9. GD stands for General Discussion, not Geeky Details.

:-)

[HappyMe]

16. !!

:spray:

[negativenihil]

10. I gotta be honest here.

I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't know what they are talking about.

I've got 11 years of professional experience with server grade computer systems, and about 25 years personal experience with consumer personal computers (Apple and x86 IBM clones ), and these terms thy are tossing out are just silly.

Let's talk the underlying memory management system for a UNIX based system (OSX) vs a Windows NT kernel. Let's talk UI. Let's talk about the Mac Toolbox and Windows APIs. Let's talk Bluebox vs WOW64...

you get the idea.

[snooper2]

26. cp pam_radius_auth.so.1 /usr/lib/security/$ISA/ pam_radius_auth.so.1

cp pam_radius_auth.so.1 /usr/lib/security/$ISA/pam_radius_auth.so.1
cp pam_authtok_get.so.1 /usr/lib/security/pam_authtok_get.so.1
cp pam_dhkeys.so.1 /usr/lib/security/pam_dhkeys.so.1
cp pam_unix_auth.so.1 /usr/lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so.1
cp /etc/pam.conf /etc/pam.conf.`date | awk '{ print $2 $3 }'`
cp pam.conf /etc/pam.conf
cp -rf raddb /etc/

[negativenihil]

29. copying and pasting a portion of a shell script proves nothing :P n/t

[snooper2]

63. You can be anybody on the intertubes right

:rofl:

back to trying to get my VVX to register :P

[dmallind]

11. Consumers are not qualified to express a preference in consumer goods?

Are you qualified to tell me whether a BMW or a Daewoo feels better to drive if you cannot explain the physics involved in cornering forces?

[Javaman]

18. +1 LOL nt

[ProdigalJunkMail]

19. well said... nt

[Lucian]

23. Oh snap!

[Yavin4]

12. It's Always The Software That Runs on the Machine, Not The Machine Itself

It's the physical TV. It's the programming on it. It's not the phone. It's the apps that run on it.

[belcffub]

13. bunch of bunk

I manage an online learning system for around 300k students at a public university (which given those numbers should tell everyone were I work).

An observation I have made over the years in industry is that some of the most knowledgable people for working on PC's (generic term - mac inclusive) are not terrible technical. I was a C programmer for several years before moving to the IT side... managed AIX, SUN, HPUX and Linux systems before moving to email then online learning and there are lots of things that I pickup from talking to people who are nurses, lineman, pilots on using my Macs & PC's (I go both ways)... if you asked them what a sector is they'd look at you like you had rainbows coming out your arse... but they know about their computer and getting it to do what they want... never judge a book by it's cover man....

[blogslut]

14. Can we talk about the Amiga?

That was the first portable computer I ever got to play with. To this day, I still remember how mind-blowing it was to draw with paintbox.

[Javaman]

17. I loved my Amiga.

it was the first computer I was able to do real graphics on. I used a program called Imagine.

[blogslut]

24. I was in this band

And the leader dude patched all the instruments through his Amiga. All I did was fart around with the paintbox and have fun making those trailing pixely things while tripping on acid.

1985. Good times.

I didn't get a machine of my own until ten years later. A used IBM PC with Win 3.0 and then, a couple months later, a 486 enhanced Pack Bell with 13 magical disks that installed the wondrous Win 95. I still have those disks.

[Javaman]

28. Good times indeed.

what I miss most about those days was the complete sense of awe and amazement in what was happening with computing as a whole. Everything was new and neat. :)

now people get pissed off if the graphics, or whatever doesn't work just they way they want it to.

I'm still that geeky kid who still gets jazzed and awed by what computers are able to do these days.

I work a lot in 3ds max and I'm still completely blown away that I'm able to create the things that I do with the computer I have.

[blogslut]

36. I still have that sense of wonder

Perhaps it's not as pronounced but every once in a while I stop and think, "Wow. I can't believe I'm doing these awesome things".

I'm certainly no expert but when I'm out amongst physical humans, all I can do is talk about computers and the interwebs. Folks listen nicely enough initially, but after a point their eyes glaze over and their smiles freeze and I have to shut up.

:hi:

[Javaman]

41. LOL I know I live with a GF that is a technophobe.

I try to explain things in the most basic terms as to how "cool" something is and I just watch as her eye lids droop.

Life. Not everyone is a geek. Shame. LOL

[jayfish]

31. Your experience tracks with my own

Except with a Coleco ADAM and sans acid. That didn't come until later.

[dionysus]

35. my first computer was an ADAM. cassette drives. i was like 7 at the time.

[Javaman]

43. I can do you one better. I had a trs-80! aka the trash-80! LOL

I was blown away when I was able to move a pixel across the screen! LOL

[dionysus]

46. ooh, i used trash 80s in middle school... BASIC with the line numbers... *shudder.. * those had the

built in green screen right?

[Javaman]

48. Yeah, and the little switch thing where you could use a regular tv.

The hours and hours I would spend typing in basic programs. Yes, shudder indeed.

[dionysus]

51. and to believe that shit made me go into IT. first BASIC, then in jr high, Turbo basic on

a mac. high school was pascal, then C and later C++. oi vey.

[Javaman]

56. LOL

for me it was computer graphics. from moving that pixel across the screen to 3ds max. LOL

I was more the pretty pictures type. LOL

[dionysus]

59. my IT concentration, i wanted to do graphics and web.. now i'm programming apps for manufacturing

databases :(

[jayfish]

61. To be honest it wasn't mine.

It was at my dads house. I almost bought the version that connected to the Colecovison but never did. He bought the stand-alone version with all the bells and whistles.

[dionysus]

34. the video toaster was so far ahead of its time. in the 90s, our cable guide was amiga run. once it

crashed, and on live TV, there's workbench as the guy restarts the application...

[Javaman]

42. The video toaster was light years ahead of everything back then.

to me that was what truly ushered in the video/computer combo revolution.

no one else was doing stuff like that.

my buddy had one. I would salivate over it. LOL

[dionysus]

33. DING DING DING!!!! It's "windows" was called workbench. i still have an A500!

:D

[blogslut]

38. I remember when that dude got his new shiny 2000

He was just beaming.

Sadly, the band broke up and I didn't get visiting rights to the Amiga. Dude would always say with a twinkle in his eye: "Amiga means girlfriend."

[dionysus]

40. i wish i would have been ablet o get the later models... so superior to everything else at the time.

sadly, they never caught on...

[Javaman]

45. One of the very best games I have ever played was on the Amiga

Elite!

I played that game to death.

[dionysus]

47. how about Shadow of the Beast?

[Javaman]

49. Oh yes! I had forgotten all about that one!

the graphics were really light years ahead of everyone back then.

[dionysus]

52. i also loved dragons lair, rocket ranger, they had alll kinds of awesome games.

i remember when amiga came out with a CD Rom, but by then, they were starting to die out, people stopped carrying hardware and software.. sadly i switched to a 486 :cry:

[Javaman]

60. I remember it well, someone bought it out and the new owners ran it into the ground.

They had the golden egg right there. They were poised to make the amiga an industry graphics standard. A giant chuck of the film industry was already using the Video Toaster.

And then, it imploded.

poor marketing, poor management, etc.

it really was a crime.

They tried to revive it using a 486 set, but the die hard Amiga users were pissed. The graphic chip set was great, just needed to be updated. instead they they were trashed.

so sad.

[jayfish]

57. That game made me jelous of Amiga owners.

When it finally came out on a platform I owned it was mind-numbingly difficult. I still own it and played it within the last year.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

15. how lovely and condescending we are today

and really FEC and sectors are not really mac or pc specific so i am wondering why they would be the delineating terms?

sP

[ileus]

20. All I know is none of my Toshiba, Siemens, Fuji, or GE equipment runs off the Mac OS

Or Mindray, Masimo, Welch Allyn, Allen Bradley,...you get the picture.

[fishwax]

21. I'd say that makes them more qualified

Well, not more qualified, really, but just as qualified. It's the context of the discussion that's different, that's all.

[rdking647]

22. I can explain both

I use macs except for one dedicated program that only runs under windows. macs IMHO are superior.

[lynne]

25. Most people don't care one way or the other -

- I've never owned a Mac or an Apple product yet I certainly recognize that many products wouldn't have made it to the table without Steve Jobs - both Apple and non-Apple. I have no problem buying and using the lesser priced - yet gets the job done - Apple knock-offs.

[L0oniX]

27. rm -rf

[jayfish]

30. Wouldn't that be -r -f ?

;)

[ProgressiveProfessor]

32. Those are far from the only technical differences

Moreover, the respective business models also enter into the equation.

[ZombieHorde]

37. I really wish logic was a mandatory subject in school.

Then you might see the contradiction in your own OP.

"Keep Government out of my medicaid!!11"

[Pisces]

39. I bought the one that is most end user friendly and less troubleshooting. Mac!!!

[InvisibleTouch]

44. It comes down to which one you happened to learn to use first...

...and that's the one you will like. I don't like Macs, not because I think there's something inherently inferior about them, but because I'm unfamiliar with them, and can do what I need to do much quicker and easier on a PC. But only by virtue of being used to using a PC. They are also more common in public places (libraries, photocopy shops), and I would hate to have to figure out how to switch back and forth every time, if I were a Mac user.

I do love the "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" commercials ... but I will still stick with my PC. :)

[TheKentuckian]

50. I like the one that I can spec out, build, and repair myself that is much more affordable

[Bonobo]

53. Nonsense. It is a consumer product so consumers' opinions are ALL that matters. nt

[City of Mills]

54. Is it OK if I like and use both?

I own a Toshiba laptop and a MacMini server, and I work on both PCs and MACs at work. I really don't have a preference.

[dionysus]

55. then you fuck up everyone's sterotypes!

[City of Mills]

58. I like to be well rounded

And well grounded :)

[MorningGlow]

62. How about general hands-on experience?

Doesn't that count?

I have always owned a Mac at home, and I usually am forced to used PCs in the workplace. Equal time. And my verdict is Mac all the way, for ease of use and reduced fears of viruses.

[RebelOne]

66. I have used Macs and PCs for the past 20 years at work and at home.

I have had two PCs at home and finally bought a Mac Mini. So, as as far as hands-on user experience goes, I consider the Mac far more superior to the PC.