POTUS agreeing to send Health Care litigation to SCOTUS

[musiclawyer]

without delay is smart in my book

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/27/1020743/-Obama-administration-puts-Affordable-Care-Act-on-SCOTUS-fast track?via=blog_1

There is no downside. You should have a ruling before the election.
If SCOTUS overturns health care reform, there will be a battle cry. I mean the commercials will be tear jerkers. Also it will shine the spotlight on SCOTUS corruption because you know who won't recuse.

If Scotus upholds health care reform, then POTUS can crow. Not a bad strategy

[bluestateguy]

1. An all or nothing verdict is unlikely

In all likelihood you will get some parsing, half-assed decision that upholds most of the law but strikes down the individual mandate.

[vi5]

2. I don't agree with most of the admins strategies....

..but this one I do. I hate the whole "uncertainty" crying about everything in this country's political clusterfuck. But in this case that uncertainty really is harmful.

But like the one poster before me I fear it will probably be some ridiculous, half-assed decisions just throwing out the mandate but not the other stuff.

[musiclawyer]

3. If only the mandate is thrown out, then Medicare for all,

here we come. No other choice. Because ther is no going back. And I don't think SCOTUS wants to risk single payer getting legs. So I am going against conventional wisdom and betting they uphold the whole thing.

[vi5]

5. They won't uphold the whole thing....

There's no way those fucking clowns Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito will not give in to their Republican puppetmasters pressure. It will never happen. They won't have any foresight in terms of wondering or caring what comes next (it won't be medicare for all or any form of single payer even if they throw out the mandate).

It's yet another thing that I'd like to be wrong about and I really hope you are right. But I don't suspect it will be the case.

[bluestate10]

4. Two appellate courts approved the entire bill, one court approved all

except the individual mandate. At the high court, the person that bears watching will be Kennedy. I expect all of the bill will be approved, but the court will ask that Congress work some wiggle room for states, such as what Vermont is getting to do it's single payer implementation. There will be cry and hue from both the Left and the Right over the decision, but on balance the decision will free up more states to implement single payer sooner than the current time-line allows.

[vi5]

6. That would be great, but.....

There's just no way states will implement single payer. States are already cutting back on teachers and police and fire departments and road and bridge maintenance. There's no way they are going to implement single payer or any form of single payer.

And yes, while I understand that healthcare costs are a large part of what is crippling states the fact is that most people do not believe that and most politicians (including many democrats) don't believe that or more accurately would never admit that. Hell many states are cutting the minimal programs they already have in place to offer insurance and healthcare to people.

Again, I'd love to see it. But it's just not going to happen even if the mandate is thrown out.

[GoCubsGo]

7. Only the mandate is going to the SCOTUS

The rest of it is not being litigated, and will not be overturned. That being said, I don't believe they will overturn it. The mandate is a big hand-out to their corporate masters. No way they're going to turn that down.