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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:39 PM
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democrats should refuse to debate healthcare repeal
let the idiots do what they will, but the democrats have already debated AND PASSED the bill.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:49 PM
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1. Great idea. That would really frustrate them, all the work..they put
into this and then crickets from the other side. No debate, no repeal..I love it.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:52 PM
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2. I think that the GOP doesn't plan to have any debate on it anyway ...
I'm pretty sure I heard Boehner say that there was no need for a debate, or discussion of amendments because the "debate" took place during the elections and they won.

And that "the American people elected us to repeal this bill, and that is what we are going to do" ... or something to that effect.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:54 PM
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3. If that's the case.
"The American People" are fools.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:54 PM
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4. debating on tuesday and 1st vote on wednesday
they are going to showboat about this bill on tuesday, that's the plan
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:58 PM
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13. I won't argue ...
Perhaps I misunderstood Boehner's statement at a press conference that he held while the rest of the House was reading the Constitution (I found that funny btw, he left to give a press conference before they finished).

I had been listening to his press conference over my shoulder (I have a TV in my home office).

This article from The Hill includes one of his statements regarding no transparency and no amendments.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/136409-boehner-defends-gop-agenda-in-first-speaker-press-conference

I think took the "no transparency" aspect to also mean no debate ...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 03:34 PM
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17. Then the Dems should demand a debate.
Put the GOP on the spot on this.
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svsuman23 Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:56 PM
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5. as long as no one calls us the party of no because of it!
That would really grind my gears.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 01:59 PM
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6. they were called the party of no for 2 years and gave us a 'shellacking'
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:01 PM
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7. It's a shame people believe Republicans had no input in shaping the bill...
...because the fact is that this bill has been terribly compromised despite their claims otherwise. A progressive bill would have included a PO. A liberal bill would have be universal health insurance. We got neither and gave up much more.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:02 PM
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8. I think the dems should take every single chance they get to toot the horn
on health care and how much money & lives it will save. Time to sell it. Hard. That will shut the GOP up faster than anything.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:06 PM
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9. i agree, but this is symbolic and they have the votes to repeal.
i say just treat it as it is....symbolic b.s.

i hate to act like them, but we've been down this road most of last year
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:08 PM
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10. Supporters of single payer Medicare for All should take the floor and shift the debate.
Edited on Fri Jan-14-11 02:09 PM by Better Believe It
Let the Republicans attack a single payer system and defend the health insurance industry and big Pharma.

That would be a lot easier and more honest than defending the Health Insurance Industry and Big Pharma Protection Act.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:10 PM
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11. Yes
And they should make a point of referring to, and putting into the congressional record, the poll that shows the majority of Americans believe that health care did not go far enough.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 03:10 PM
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14. And point out majority support for Medicare for All extension
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:40 PM
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12. The Dems need to bring up Single Payer, Universal Health Care
And the fact we are he very last industrialized nation to go this route. The last holdout. That we can cherry pick from the rest of the world from whats works and what does not and end up with literally the best health care in the world.

Won't happen of course because the health insurance companies and big pharma has bought our government. If congress did try too hard to help the citizens, a few well placed small plane crashes would get the mavericks back in line.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 03:11 PM
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15. +1
Absolutely!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 03:11 PM
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16. Actually, they should beat the drum for mental health care.
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