Ecstacy 100% Proven To Kill Cancer Cells

[reggie the dog]

http://sflchronicle.com/news/health/2011/08/ecstacy-100-proven-to-kill-cancer-cells/


hmmm, cannabis and mdma are both illegal and both cure cancer......

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201131/20110820/ecstasy-drug-cure-cancer-cells-mdma-university-birmingham-john-gordon.htm

2nd link because 1st on not working for everyone

[booley]

1. pretty sure cannabis doesnt' cure cancer

It helps stimulate appetite and possibly reduce pain.

That's not really curing though.

[PDJane]

2. Cannabis does shrink cancer cells in some studies....

[tridim]

5. Specifically tumors in the head, neck and mouth.

It amazes me that people still don't know about this. It seems kind of important.

[Capitalocracy]

6. "Shrinks" is different from "cures"...

but it certainly doesn't hurt.

[tridim]

16. Yep, I've pointed that out many times on DU..

Nothing cures cancer, yet. At least nothing that the public knows about.

[Capitalocracy]

26. But if it shrinks tumors

then it should be available as part of a combination therapy, since combining different therapies that shrink tumors via different mechanisms will, not surprisingly, shrink tumors more. And it's especially useful considering the fact that it mitigates the side effects of other therapies.

But we as a society are retarded. And I won't apologize for using that word, because I truly believe that as a society our capacity to collectively think and make decisions is severely stunted and nowhere near its full potential.

Edit to clarify: Referring to marijuana in this post. I'm not claiming MDMA treats side effects of cancer treatments.

[reggie the dog]

36. a guy in canada seems to using hash oil,

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/18190/Cannabis_Cures_Cancer____quot_Run_From_The_Cure_quot_/

[librechik]

4. cannabis shrinks tumors govt has known since at least 74

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12088.php

http://milesforhope.org/component/kunena/29-complimentary-alternative-medicines/138-cannabis-shrinks-glial-tumors

[Scuba]

7. Yeah, it does. At least according to the National Cancer Institute....

...a division of the US National Institutes of Health


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[Tsiyu]

8. hempseed has the omega 3 and other cancer-fighting/tumor

fighting activity of flaxseed and fish oil. For those with liver issues, hempseed is easier to digest.

We buy it legally out of a local health food store, already shelled, USDA organic (though grown in Canada, of course).

It tastes great on everything, i use it to batter chicken along with parm cheese and breadcrumbs, sprinkle it in cakes and over ice cream and salads.

[eShirl]

21. I thought the heat of cooking destroys the beneficial properties?

at least, I think I remember reading that about flaxseed oil...

[Tsiyu]

35. it shouldn't get heated over 140

however, I use it as a batter because it tastes really, really good!

[avaistheone1]

3. I can't get that link to load on my pc

[TheWraith]

9. Not to be confused with the San Francisco Chronicle, which is a legitimate paper...

This is the South Florida Chronicle, which is somebody's blog, which also features other brilliant news headlines such as "Kim Kardashian is officially off the market! Sorry Ladies and Gents!", "Calling All deviantART Artists That Have Been Screwed by Chad LOVE!!", and "Canadian Prime Minister Candidate a Sex Machine?"

So you'll pardon me if I wait for a more reliable source.

[reggie the dog]

13. here you go

http://www.businessinsider.com/illegal-drug-ecstasy-may-possibly-be-the-new-cure-for-cancer-2011-8

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201131/20110820/ecstasy-drug-cure-cancer-cells-mdma-university-birmingham-john-gordon.htm

[TheWraith]

19. As I suspected, it's basically the same information that was out weeks ago...

That it's potentially effective against some cancers. Which is rather a different story than "Ecstacy 100% Proven To Kill Cancer Cells!!"

The other half of the story is that the researchers also developed a slightly modified form of the drug which was several times more effective in this role than the raw drug.

[reggie the dog]

37. which is at the 2nd link

the first link from a month ago talked about potential and the 2nd article talks about the australian modifications and findings

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. And brain cells.

User's choice.

[reggie the dog]

14. what brain cells? neither MDMA nor cannabis kill brain cells

[eShirl]

22. must be thinking of alcohol!

[markpkessinger]

54. Another victim of the War on Drugs propaganda machine n/t

[seabeyond]

11. hmmm, drop dead from a heart attack, but gets that cancer, lol. interesting. nt

[reggie the dog]

15. did you read the article? lethal dose is not needed due to

modifications made by scientists in australia.

dont forget that MDMA was originally a medical drug used by people getting pshchotherapy.

if you take a non lethal dose you dont have heart attacks

[seabeyond]

17. no i didnt read. and i dont know a whole lot about the drug. just that kids have been known to dead

i am all for finding ways to cure cancer, so really, works for me.

[stellanoir]

18. I had heard in the 80's MDMA when was unscheduled

and still legal, it was used in psychotherapeutic trials with great success, that merck had initially patented in 1917 or so as a diet pill, but they ditched it for that purpose.

I had read over the past several years that some experiments using MDMA are being conducted with veterans with PTSD.

[reggie the dog]

38. MDMA was used for PTSD

some psychiastists even took at the same time as their patients on occaison it to feel empathy with their patients. in the 1980s it was very easy to get from the pharmacy but once people who listened to house and other electronic music got into it the right wing made it illegal.

check out the book "ecstacy: dance, trance, and transformation. written by an md and a psychologist, i read it before i took mdma for the first time

[stellanoir]

I used to facilitate those sorts of sessions back then.

It was a remarkable tool. I do remember seeing that book around but had accumulated enough through both experience and observation by that point that reading it wasn't a priority.

I know a ton of people who would do really well with it adapting to these troublesome times. Alas I wouldn't know where to find it now.

[reggie the dog]

52. anyplace neo hippies, hipsters, house/electronic music

fans hang out, really not too hard to find at the right kind of gatherings, look for gatherings where there are people doing drum circles and fire juggling for instance and you should be able to find some, not so easy but i managed to find some while back in chicago this summer and i only looked once my daughter left with her mother so i half assed looked for three weeks by just asking whoever i was hanging out with on a given day and found some before i left

[stellanoir]

50. Self Deleted dupe

[wiggs]

41. ...was effectively used in marriage counseling before becoming illegal. nt

[reggie the dog]

45. i tried in vain for a year to get my ex to take mdma with me and talk

about our relationship, she refused. she thought i was crazy and the dismissed the articles i showed her about its use in marriage counseling

[AngkorWot]

25. "taking some atoms away and putting new ones in their place"

I know a junior high level of chemistry might be hard for some people, but if they took some atoms away and replaced them with others, then it's not MDMA anymore.

[reggie the dog]

39. we dont have the new name yet so mdmax for all we know

i want to know what the "side effects are" users may seem overly happy, have feelings of empathy and inner peace..."

[AngkorWot]

53. "for all we know"

Well, you don't know. But chemists have ways of naming new molecules.

[salvorhardin]

12. Link doesn't work for me either.

What studies is this blog post referencing? Are they in vitro or in vivo? Can you at least provide an excerpt?

[reggie the dog]

46. in vitro

check the other links i posted along the thread

[salvorhardin]

51. Thanks n/t

[AngkorWot]

20. You know what else is 100% proven to kill cancer cells? Fire.

There's a long way between killing cancer cells and being an effective treatment for cancer.

[tridim]

28. Fire and radiation kill all cells, these alternative therapies kill only cancer cells.

Can you see the difference?

[AngkorWot]

30. "kill only cancer cells"

Source?

[Missy Vixen]

23. Ecstasy also fries brain synopses

I'm not sure what's worse - brain damage or cancer...

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Whats worse is jailing people for non-violent drug offenses.. but what's a brain "synopse"?

Hmm. Maybe because I spent all that time following the Dead with all those burned out druggies, I don't know that word.

I've heard of a brain synapse, of course, being the space between a neuronal dendrite and adjacent neuronal axon. (At least I think... it's so hard to tell with the constant sound of eggs bubbling on a greasy skillet inside my skull!!!) and if you've got scientific evidence showing that MDMA "fries" those, by all means post the relevant factual scientific data here for all to see!

[Capitalocracy]

29. Synopses is the plural of synopsis.

MDMA severely damages your brain summaries.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. That explains why, when asked to write a short paragraph summarizing what "Eat Pray Love" was about

I promptly wet myself and turned into a cowering, shaking mass huddled in the corner.

[Missy Vixen]

32. I used Phen-Fen under doctor's supervision

Studies continue to progress regarding Ecstasy-like damage to the brain as a result of taking Phen-Fen. Of course, those studies are not as critical as those who died of PPH as a result of taking the drugs.

http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/SP/SP.236/S09/lecturenotes/drugchart.htm

Also, pardon me for using an incorrect word for synapses. I should know better than to post here at all. After all, it might disturb the 24x7 illicit substances lobby.

:eyes:

[Warren DeMontague]

33. So when asked to provide evidence about ecstasy, you offer evidence about a different drug.

try again. We're not talking about "phen-fen", we're talking about a different drug.

And excuse me, but the current fucking drug war policy is LUDICROUS. Is "brain damage" (according to you) "worse" than cancer? I don't know, my dad died of cancer. He wouldn't be any MORE dead if he'd been happy and even brain damaged when he died. How about letting the individual cancer patient (or otherwise consenting adult) decide for THEMSELVES? Wow, what a radical thought.

[reggie the dog]

47. i knew what you meant at any rate

i make spelling mistakes too ;)

[reggie the dog]

43. mdma, like cannabis, like lsd, like mushrooms are not brain killers

alcohol kills brain cells, mdma does not "fry" synopses. the only study showing brain pattern change after mdma use later conceded that their "mdma" was likely meth and that the results were not trustworthy in relation to mdma

[Warren DeMontague]

24. don't worry. As long as it makes people feel good, happy, funny and horny

it will NEVER been anything close to legal.

[Worship Money]

34. At the same time

Someone can go buy a 24 pack of beer for a Friday night discount at the corner store, and annihilate themselves perfectly legally.

Sam Harris is on to something. There's a reason why booze and cigs are legal and the rest are utterly demonized.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Of course. And it has nothing to do with the relative physiological harm of the substance.

Pot is illegal because it makes people laugh, it makes people think, it makes people think authority is funny (notice how goose stepping went out of style after Monty Python did the Ministry of Silly Walks?) and most importantly, it's associated with hippies, liberals, and free thinkers.

[LynneSin]

42. There are only a couple hundred types of cancers out there - it cures them all?

:shrug:

I have no issues with using Esctasy for curing diseases but we shouldn't really be self medicating ourselves with it. Unlike Marijuana, Esctasy does have side affects. Mind you it's not as hard core as say Crank or Smack but it has some.

[reggie the dog]

48. it is a piss poor headline

but the article explains that they are talking about blood cancers cured 100% of the tests IN VITRO so not in actual people

[LynneSin]

49. fair enough

n/t

[loyalsister]

44. 100% 99.9% exactly 50%

Are all red flags for bogus assertions.