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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:19 PM
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Poll question: Is this gonna work?

OK, so there is a round of crazy ass arbitrary cuts coming soon. To protect the stuff he likes the President creates a bill which increases investment in the things he wants to invest in.

Then he throws in the Corporate Overlords want like more tax cuts and free trade agreements.

If the bill passes this means that they can't cut the stuff in the bill and actually need to increase investment in things like unemployment insurance. It also means the cuts will need to come from other areas, perhaps some that the (R)s would rather not touch.


So, is this gonna work?


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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:21 PM
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1. Hope I'm wrong, but I think "no"
Their game plan is to trash the economy. Republicans always stick to the plan. That's one of the advantages of not being able to improvise.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:28 PM
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2. Who's gonna hire when there is no demand?
No one...regardless of tax cuts or credits.

Robert Reich and Paul Krugman are "dead-on" correct. You have to raise demand for there to be job creation.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:30 PM
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3. Demand will come with millions more employed, looking to spend.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:39 PM
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6. How do you get that to happen?
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:50 PM
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7. Infrastructure repair, investing in America, re-hiring laid off teachers, police, etc.
THIS is a chance for America to save America.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:59 PM
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8. Tax the rich at 1950's rates and we can do all of that very easily.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:01 PM
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9. Oh I agree completely. Or Reagan's of 50%.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:02 PM
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11. There isn't the spending here to do more than make a token effort.
There isn't enough hiring here to move the needle and there is enough bad policy to actually make matters worse, offsetting and surpassing the small gains.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:03 PM
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12. Did I mention tax the rich?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:34 PM
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4. No.
A global economy based on endless growth & debt is over, and it doesn't matter what Obama does. Or Romney or Perry. Or the EU.

The bubble is burst. There isn't another bubble.

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:37 PM
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5. What the terror threat to get what you want politically?
If that's what it takes, i guess...

Although I hope it doesn't bite us in the ass and get us cuts to medicare and SS.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:02 PM
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10. When's the last time we heard cut taxes and spend?
Bu$h.
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zippytheplatypus Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:25 PM
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13. where is the plan?
At what point does the Democratic Party actually form an economic system for the 21st century? It used to be the Keynesian model then the Friedmanist reactionary model now we got the 12th century France Feudal Model. Can you weak spineless bastards finally put a system that's viable together that can work for fifty years please.. the closest thing I've heard is Krugman's Fake Alien Invasion Model. Personally I like the Jean Valjean Kill the Rich Anarchy Model but I'm not married to it..
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:34 PM
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14. You don't know unless you try.
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