Why are all these damn Exxon Mobile (pro tar sands) commercials running on MSNBC?

[RiverStone]

Watching Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight and at just about every break, there is an Exxon Mobile ad talking about how wonderful the Tar Sands project is or how important their Fracking Operations are.

I know - Exxon pays top $$$$ for advertising, but given the progressive views from Rachel, Ed, and Lawrence --- why the fuck is the network that gives them a show also running ads promoting this insidious pipeline? I'm really disappointing that MSNBC execs feel the money earned is worth selling out their values.

Is MSNBC also in bed with with the oil industry? Hate to think so, but what other explanation is there for seeing so much big oil propaganda on the network? :shrug:

[BeFree]

1. We are all in bed together

Exxom is worried that we are gonna start claiming, again, like we used too, that we are getting dis-eased. So they are embarking upon a mind control campaign to make us feel like the screwing they are giving us is really gonna be orgasmic.

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. I think our first mistake is thinking that MSNBC execs have "values" other than those that make $$$

Rachel, Ed, and Lawrence have shows because they have audiences, and there is no other reason.

MSNBC values $$$$. Exxon gives them money for their commercial time. There isn't anything difficult in understanding that.

MSNBC would put video of my mother having group sex with longshoremen on if the video existed and they thought people would watch it and sponsors would buy time while it was on.

To think otherwise is to be naive beyond belief.

[RiverStone]

5. Call me naive, but I'd like to think (somewhere) that fucking $ does not talk loudest

Wonder if they play this shit on Current TV - i.e. home of Keith Olbermann and Al Gore? I don't get sat TV, so no clue there.

Hypocrisy can't be everywhere in the media, but it's pretty damn close to it.

On Edit: Link to http://current.com/

[cherokeeprogressive]

7. I'm not going to call you naive. I'm not going to call you anything.

I don't watch Current TV, can't stand KO, and think Gore is a hypocrite for having huge homes, a houseboat larger than some apartment buildings, and being driven in caravans of SUV's after flying to speeches in "corporate jets".

That said, I'll stand by my assertion that M$NBC is about the almighty Dollar and nothing else.

[RiverStone]

10. What politician is without hypocrisy?

Hardly any - the very nature of politics invites the seduction of power and character (see John Edwards).

Maybe Dennis Kucinich is one of the few that walks his talk. He still lives in a (relatively) small house.

And on your assertion, there is a difference between MSNBC and Faux News. The almighty $ may be a driving force, but I do believe there are some differences that can be defined by attributes other than money. At least MSNBC dials in the truth; that's worth something!

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. M$NBC dials in the truth when it makes them money. They have a feduciary responsibility to their

shareholders, and they do their best to live up to it.

As for your question about politicians without hypocrisy, there are none. None. The best Democrat and the worst republican are in the game for the same reason; sucking the public teat for all it's worth.

It is politicians who are responsible for the ills of the world. THEY allow CEO's to get away with policies that hurt people and the environment. THEY allow banks to fuck people without lubrication. THEY make value decisions that affect our daily lives in a negative manner. THEY run for office again and again while making millions in the background from donors, and THEY leave office after decades complaining about how bad we all have it while doing NOTHING to make things better. THEY leave DC in limosines, bound for huge homes in high-rent places. THEY travel to far away lands on the country's dime with their families and those of their entourages while calling their trips "junkets" and taking up whole floors in 5-star hotels.

M$NBC simply gives them airtime because some of them have huge followings made up of naive people.

[RiverStone]

14. Then who DO you vote for?

Cherokeeprogressive, while I'll agree with much of your assertions on how politicians fuck over constituents and are beholden to their corporate masters - I am wondering if indeed you see them all as corrupt, why are you on DU?

While thankfully we don't march in lockstep like the pukes, we do tend to support progressive candidates (i.e. politicians). And until we have instant runoffs and a viable 3rd party, there is not much else to choose from

The SCOTUS is appointed by politicians who earn votes; and they will be making laws that my children will be having to live with ---- so I believe in activism.

Just who do you ever vote for - if at all?

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. I vote a straight Democratic ticket for statewide and national candidates, but take a more pragmatic

approach in local elections.

While I believe in my heart that there is no such thing as a career politician who holds anything more than their own best interest at heart, I believe that the philosophy embraced by the two parties is in complete opposition in its application politically.

I am "on DU" because I can be, but more importantly because I am diametrically opposed to right-wing thinking.

You want me gone? Okay, I'll leave. Goodbye cruel DU...

Wait. What?

Nah... I like this place. I think I'll stay.

[RiverStone]

18. Never said I want ya gone...

You said: It is politicians who are responsible for the ills of the world.

So thanks for providing clarity that there are a few you can stomach, maybe even root for. Where DU is different from the freepers is that we DO question the actions of those we elect - and hold them accountable! This is a big reason why so many of us (myself included) are disappointed in Obama not being the change agent he ran on. He better fix that quick!

So keep hammering away at the corporate bastards, wingnut religious fanatics, and bushco spawns of the criminal regime. Glad your still here. :hi:

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Like Dorothy said: "There's no place like DU. There's no place like DU." while clicking her heels

together. She said that didn't she? LOL.

We may not agree on everything, but the things we do agree on are the important ones.

Much love...

Chris

[rocktivity]

13. FYI, you can watch Current TV online at

http://www.thertv.eu/?p=22

:headbang:
rocktivty

[RiverStone]

15. Ah cool. Thanks!

:hi:

[spanone]

3. same reason m$nbc is hosting the teabaggers/republican debate next week?

[Scruffy1]

4. Turn it off. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

6. You think they are on our side? Oh my goodness! They use us to rake in dough

we use them to shine a little light.

We aren't of like mind or allies, it is strictly business and precarious at that too much light in the wrong places hits the bottom line.

[demosincebirth]

8. $

[Kennah]

9. My guess would be GE's Oil and Gas division

http://www.ge.com/products_services/oil_gas.html

[Rex]

12. Why do you think?

[jwirr]

17. That isn't the half of it! I can ignore them but that stupid Huckabee

is on every night trying to get people to sign his petition to get rid of the HCR.