Should Evolutionists Be Allowed to Vote?

[kpete]

MON AUG 29, 2011 AT 06:04 AM PDT
Creationist leader: Evolutionists have no place in society
byChristian Dem in NC

Should Evolutionists Be Allowed to Vote?

? They do not and can not know the purpose for Man. In
fact, all of them believe Man has no purpose.
? Therefore, they cannot make informed judgments about
how men should behave toward each other, or what would
be "good" or "bad" for any group of men to do, or not do.
? Thus, they have no sane foundation upon which to base
“laws” or rational for insisting that other men obey the
laws.
? Thus, the religion they profess to believe renders them incapable
of participating in any decision about what men ought
to do. But, that is the purpose of all law.
? Therefore, in a sane society, evolutionists should not be allowed
to vote, or influence laws or people in any way!
They should, perhaps, make bricks to earn enough to eat.

Just in case you're wondering--this isn't coming from a fringe kook. This is coming from the president of the Creation Science Association of Mid-America. In other words, we have the leader of a mainstream creationist organization saying that evolutionists don't belong in our society. Whether you're a creationist or an evolutionist, this is simply unacceptable.

http://www.csama.org/csanews/nws200807.pdf
http://www.csama.org/CSA-STAFF.HTM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/29/1011424/-Creationist-leader:-Evolutionists-have-no-place-in-society?via=siderec

[Pacifist Patriot]

1. Not only erroneous, but utterly foul!

[valerief]

2. What if it's an evolutionist CORPORATION? ***TB heads explode***nt

[MaggieTheVoter]

3. Dear God, EVERYONE should have the right to vote.

nt

[Jim__]

4. He's not a fringe kook? Does that mean he's a regular kook?

From one of your links:

Thompson F. (Tom) Willis - President of CSA, Tom received the B.Sc. in Physics and M.A. in Statistics from the University of Missouri, Columbia, where he also spent two years as a Research Consultant in Statistics and Numerical Analysis at the Computer Research Center. For the next ten years he continued to work largely with university research, mostly as a Senior Systems Engineer in Information Systems. He left his "city job" via "early retirement" in 1987 to free himself for more time in Creation work. Tom and his wife Penny homeschool their children, David, Joshua, and Grace. At this writing, David and Josh are in college.

Tom researches in and speaks on The Nature and Philosophy of Science, the Origin of Life, Kinds and Man, Geology, Dinosaurs, the Ice Age, the Genesis Flood, purported Human Evolution, Radiometric Dating and the Age of the Earth.. Because of his background, he also does work in methods of age dating, the velocity of light, physics, and related topics. Tom was a leader in the notorious "Kansas Science Standards War" as well as being a long term leader in Creation Science in the Midwest. As such, Tom has been featured in interviews and articles by many international media outlets including Reuters, BBC, New Scientist, Geo (the "European National Geographic"), 20-20, CBS, NBC, NPR, and, of course local radio and TV as well as print media like the Kansas City Star and Lawrence Journal World.

Tom has written two books, Real Scientists Just Say NO! (To Evolution) and The Origin of Caves, and has co-authored with David Brown, Ape Men - Science or Myth? He has a standing offer to debate any evolutionist (or evolutionists) in the world on subjects like "Creation or Evolution - Which is Science, Which is Myth?"

[dmallind]

6. an influential kook in creationist (over half Americans) circles. nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

21. Having degrees in physics and statistics in no way qualifies a person to

make scientific judgements on biology, psychology, anthropology, paleontology, history, geology, or any of a hundred other sciences that bolster the evolution argument and make mincemeat of the creation argument.

An educated idiot.

[dmallind]

5. but I was called stupid, here, yesterday, for saying fundies want to disenfranchise us...nt

[KansDem]

7. I getting so sick and tired of the "religion = morality" crowd!

"Evolutionists" believe man should "behave" in order for society to exist, and don't need a fairy-tale to tell them how...

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. I'm sick of them too.

[Johonny]

17. +1

This comes from the same people that have a high probability to vote for candidates and create governments that defund social programs for the poor and needy. So what was their whole argument again?

[EOTE]

9. Those are some talented folks on their staff.

You know, the "scientists and technologists" they make reference to. The first person they list has an Associate's degree from Devry. Apparently that's the most education you can get without becoming one of those Godless Socialists that CSAMA is always going on about.

[tavalon]

10. You can't say mainstream creationist organization

No such thing exists. They are fringe fundamentalists. If they were muslim, we would be calling them Al Queda. They are whackadoos one busload of fertilizer from domestic terrorism.

[Recursion]

14. Over half of the US are creationists, though almost half of those accept parts of evolution

So, yes, there are "mainstream" creationist organizations.

[saras]

20. No, it just means half the US are kooks. The whole world already knows this.

Sorry, one of the things we lost when we gave up our worldwide empire and handed it to corporations was the right to claim that "American" equals "mainstream".

Nope, creationists are kooks. And that wouldn't change the slightest bit if every American except one were creationists.

[dmallind]

19. 75% of Protestants are creationists.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/us/views_of_bible_poll_040216.html

[struggle4progress]

11. Actually, it is coming from a fringe kook

I checked out the CSA News Items webpage:

The purpose of this page is to post responses to Creation Science or Intelligent Design issues that come up in the News
http://www.csama.org/CSA-NWSITMS.html

It had two items on it, both from 2008: the Kansas City Star covered the CSA monthly meeting
and CSA was upset about a channel one survey

[LeftinOH]

12. How is anyone a "mainstream creationist"? Aren't they all equally stupid?

[Recursion]

15. That's more than half of the US. If "mainstream" is about actual "mainstreamness". (nt)

[sinkingfeeling]

13. The president of the CSAMA agrues like a 4th. grader.

[northoftheborder]

16. Crazy, ignorant, scary.

[Ilsa]

18. How much time do we have before we're rounded up and placed in "re-education" camps? nt

[jeff47]

22. When we are, you can expect a "nobody could have predicted" excuse from the supporters (nt)

[scheming daemons]

23. There is no such thing as a "mainstream creationist". If you're a creationist, you're an idiot.

Period.

[dmallind]

24. Last bit is true, but the implication that idiocy is not mainstream is false

Not only is creationism the US norm, but it's not the only idiocy that is the norm. Fox News dominates cable news. McDonalds sells more burgers than anyone else. John Grisham writes bestsellers. No idea what #1 CD is this week but I bet it stands as a good example too.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

25. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster have mercy on them

[Blue Owl]

26. Survival of the fittest in action

:sarcasm: