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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 12:34 AM
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Chris Swindell: We've lost our way
It struck me as sad and frightening that former vice president Richard Cheney would go on television advancing his book and speak the unspeakable.

Asked to defend torture, the great monster calmly stated that if he had another high profile terrorist, and torture was the only way to get him to talk, he would eagerly do it again and again. Where is the moral hazard?


I will speak up. Justice demands her place at the table in the case of this miscreant. Black armored limousines and Secret Service protection cannot keep Cheney from her accusing finger. The loudest accolades of his sick supporters cannot drown out the cries of the 100,000 dead Iraqis from his war. Their blood screams for vengeance. And yes, even the terrorists who hate the United States deserve justice, if we are who we say we are and live the principles we all learn in grade school.

So, we're left with how to right a wrong? First, we must return to the original premise. Wrong is wrong no matter who commits it. Second, great treachery to our beloved United States should be met with a fair trial and a swift punishment. Death may even be appropriate. Finally, we must execute judgment precisely because by not doing so, we enable the next tyrant who comes along to do the same or worse. Funny, we hunt down a tyrant in Libya, and leave alone one standing in our midst.


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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 01:00 AM
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1. Philosophies that are among the
teachings of the Tao can, and have, resolved the dichotomies to various degrees by way of imersive and total inclusion by way of thought.

Those ideas are not beneficial and supportive to the pervasive ideas of power, wealth and profit that only serve, in the end, to steal power, labor and resources from the masses and secure them into the hands of just a few while convincing the exploited, every step of the way via policies and titular heads, that this total act of robbery and centralization of control is somehow a benefit to all when it is only the way to an ultimate victory of a small group of self-centered sociopaths at the cost of massive suffering for untold millions of human beings in real time.

Not good. Not going to go. Not acceptable and we will continue to spread the word as insurgents into that illusory reality that casts most of us and our children as total slaves with ipods of connected misery.

This will end soon, but getting your head together about the experience is on the burner now, big time.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 01:16 AM
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2. To the ramparts
Edited on Mon Aug-29-11 01:16 AM by Angry Dragon
I fear this may be the only thing they understand
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 01:46 AM
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3. Oh, I don't think they are too worried about any type of consequences
or repercussions for the crimes.

I'd wager that Cheney will be honored for his *long years of public service to America* (and in those exact words) once he dies.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 04:45 AM
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4. I hate that I want him to feel all of the pain and suffering
Of congestive heart failure. It feels like the only justice and yet I end up tied to him in my hatred of him.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 06:17 AM
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5. Though dulled by time and absence, my hatred of cheney remains strong.
I honestly think that this man is the single worst "leader" to defile the White House during my lifetime (I'm 61). I'm glad he's gone, but I wish he would just GO AWAY.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:32 AM
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6. Even that would be him getting off easy.
I hate that he got away with it. (and not just him)

I'm not capable of pretending America can rise above crimes (to include planned, systemic torture) the country won't even acknowledge... much less prosecute.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:00 AM
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7. Well, he is getting the best care in the world but even so
death by congestive heart failure is slow and painful. Certainly I wanted him and every other treasonous bastard from the last administration to live out their last days in the Hague, but this is what we've got.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:02 AM
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8. "Moral hazard" means I get to enjoy the benefit, someone else takes the risk.
I don't think it means what the author thinks it does.
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