Batshit fundies suggest atheist registry, modeled after sex-offender registry.

[backscatter712]

From the "You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear" department:

http://pastorstahl.blogspot.com/2010/09/putting-atheists-on-national-registry.html

Brothers and Sisters , I have been seriously considering forming a ( Christian ) grassroots type of organization to be named "The Christian National Registry of Atheists" or something similar . I mean , think about it . There are already National Registrys for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK , skinheads , radical Islamists , etc..

This type of "National Registry" would merely be for information purposes . To inform the public of KNOWN ( i.e., self-admitted) atheists . For example , let's say you live in Colorado Springs , Colorado , you could simply scroll down ( from the I-Net site /Blog ) I would have , to the State of Colorado , and then when you see "Colorado Springs" , you will see the names of all the self-admitted atheist(s) who live there ( e.g., if an atheist's name happened to be "Phil Small" ) . The individual's physical address , and other known personal information would NOT be disclosed ( though , perhaps a photo could be ) .

Now , many (especially the atheists ) , may ask "Why do this , what's the purpose ?" Duhhh , Mr. Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net - to INFORM the public ! I mean , in the City of Miramar , Florida , where I live , the population is approx. 109,000 . My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists ! Perhaps we may actually know some . In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism . Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan .

Frankly , I don't see why anyone would oppose this idea - including the atheists themselves ( unless of course , they're actually ashamed of their atheist religion , and would prefer to stay in the 'closet.' ) .

I don't know what it is that makes them think we atheists eat babies or something. But putting us on a registry like child molesters? That's beyond fucked up. And I'll just say "Good luck with that." The only thing that will get me on such a list is a SWAT team pointing assault rifles at my head.

More here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/28/1011322/-Christian-fanatics-want-national-registry-of-atheists-%7C-Update:-Even-Crazier-Stuff?detail=hide

including one particular tidbit from a Kossack commenter:

A lot of comparisons to what the Nazi's did to Jews in the comments. Those comparisons are accurate, but for a chilling contemporary analogy, entlord in the comments suggests the comparison to lists of abortion doctors that the religious right fanatics have passed around. This is the most apt comparison because this is the way the contemporary religious right operates. They make these lists as a means of harassment with the ultimate hope of encouraging their violent followers to take matters in their own hands. Make no mistake about it, this is not merely about discovering a chance to proselytize, and it's not merely about economic black-listing and extortion, this is about the dreams of more right wing violence.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be in my basement cleaning my guns...

[RKP5637]

1. Smart move, your basement chore! n/t

[Pyrzqxgl]

2. How about these Christian Fundies have to wear a small piece of batshit on the end of their nose.

[ixion]

3. If the whacko fundie xians will tattoo a Jesus fish on their foreheads

I'll sign their stupid registry.

[RKP5637]

6. That's a good idea! In traffic around here the worst and most rude drivers

generally have a Jesus fish on the back of their vehicle. It generally means - beware.

[JEB]

135. I've said for years

that Billy Graham bumper stickers are the root cause of road rage.

[Populist_Prole]

170. Same observation. Either those stupid fish, or a WWJD? logo

I live in a yuppified "new south" suburban hell populated by many nouveau riche, very full of themselves types. I try hard as hell not to let rude drivers get to me, but I snapped once after observing this one A-hole in an SUV seemingly attempting to make the maximum number of abrupt lane changes without signalling. He was being so rude to others it pissed me off. Had all the usual christian BS on it. I yelled at him at the next light: "what would Jesus do??" Then said "He'd use his goddamned turn signal and not cut people off!!!"

[nxylas]

88. Most of them probably would

Fundies aren't exactly noted for keeping their religious beliefs to themselves.

[ixion]

91. their vanity would keep most from doing so

remember that part of the reason they wear their religion on their sleeve is because it defines a part of their personality.

They use it to assert they're 'above' the rest of us heathens. As such, they would cry religious persecution, in my opinion.

[LondonReign2]

109. How could they possibly protest getting a godfish tattoo?

Unless they are ashamed of their xtian religion or course.

[Enthusiast]

146. Me too....nt

[JDPriestly]

199. Good point! Are the Fundies planning to ask everyone they

meet about their religious beliefs?

[chollybocker]

4. "I'm Phil Small!"

:hi:

[stevedeshazer]

20. I am Phil Small, too.

:hi:

[demwing]

39. We are ALL Phil Small

But you can call me V

[spooked911]

92. Indeed! Welcome to Phil Small central!

[Amaril]

108. Phyllis Small

Checking in. :hi:

[NMMNG]

5. Oh, but we're constantly told

that there's no bigotry/bias against atheists in this country. :eyes:

[Arugula Latte]

30. Oh, also, atheists are just as extreme as the religious fundamentalists!

:eyes:

[trotsky]

61. Oh yes, can't forget that gem!

Richard Dawkins, uh, like writes books and stuff!

[NMMNG]

70. Of course

Opposing "faith based" oppression of LGBT people, suppression of science and education, bullying of atheists and religious minorities, restrictions on women's healthcare, etc, is just as bad as doing all of those things.

[me b zola]

73. I hate when I see that crap written here

I'm a believer who knows there is no equivalency. I'm so sorry that this happens, it is so wrong.

[Lyric]

102. Of course. Our Registry of Uppity Christians has been complete for months!

These deluded religious types are total amateurs.

:rofl:

[LeftyMom]

142. Since they're all in the same place on Sunday mornings getting their plate numbers was easy

thanks to our network of atheist spy satellites. Praise Carl for thinking up that cover story about looking for aliens and distant planets and crap.

[JHB]

7. Will there be a registry for batshit crazy fundies?

Will they be tatooed with guano-marks on their foreheads? Or will that look too much like Catholics on Ash Wednesday, and they wouldn't want anyone to think they're devil-worshiping papists?

[meow mix]

8. dont forget the non-fundys.. who rated them between

muslims and tea baggers.. as to thier overall "popularity" with the 2nd lowest score.

[backscatter712]

9. Yep. Atheists are about as high up on the demonized scale...

as the Jews in Germany were about 1933 or so.

[dmallind]

33. Where were atheists not at the bottom? Every poll I've seen has atheists dead last. nt

[sarcasmo]

10. I always figured the nut jobs would be coming after me.

[LiberalFighter]

11. How about sterilization of all fundy religious nuts when they turn 16?

[amborin]

32. LOL! +10

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

68. Make that 10

Get them before puberty





We all know the golden rule
Do unto others, before they do unto you

[AlbertCat]

160. Get them before puberty

Then we can have all male choirs singing Bach cantatas again! I love "authentic" renderings of Baroque music.

I'm for it!

[me b zola]

74. I'd vote for that!

[hunter]

12. The Cthulhu cultists are not atheists.

How am I supposed to discriminate between them and Christians if the Christians don't have a registry too?

These death cults are so confusing...

:shrug:

[MineralMan]

13. Oh, cool. Can I sign up as an "armed atheist?"

A little notation on my listing, "Drop on by."

[RKP5637]

27. +1, n/t

[hobbit709]

37. Add me to that category

[w0nderer]

41. needs a rewrite of '48 hours' favourite line

Redneck: What kind of cop are you?
Reggie: You know what I am? I'm your worst f-ckin' nightmare, man. I'm a nigger with a badge which means I got permission to kick your fuckin' ass whenever I feel like it!

'i'm your worst f-ckin' nightmare man, i'm a liberal atheist with a gun, an attitude and 30 years of shit on my mind'

or something

[MineralMan]

44. Or, as Gandhi said," I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians.

They are so unlike your Christ."

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[AlbertCat]

161. More Gandhi!

Reporter: What do you think of western civilization?
Mahatma Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.


Of course, Hindus can be as bad as any religionist.

[donquijoterocket]

180. I'd

surprise them with a few well-aimed warning shots.Nothing like a little surprise to put the something of dog in them.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. He uses a photo of Dawkins to frighten his readers

Here's a clue, whacko: Dawkins lives in the UK, so he wouldn't be in that registry.

[AsahinaKimi]

15. This list will be followed by a list of

Buddhists, Hindu, Wiccan, Muslim, and every other NON CHRISTIAN person in the United States. Buddhists don't believe in violence, however, even the Shaolin took up martial arts to protect themselves from muggers and thieves. It wouldn't be a good idea for any of these fundies to start messing with people from these other religious sects. They may not find us so easy...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wW4mfl0E6gg/SQsr-U1_LKI/AAAAAAAAAAU/80h5VFsaChE/s400/Shaolin+Monks01.jpg

[JHB]

17. Remember to include Catholics in the "nonChristian" registry...

...and probably Episcopals and Eastern Orthodox, and anyone else the fundies don't count as "real" Christian.

[Auntie Bush]

133. Don't forget "The Mormons!"

No one escapes predigest.

[a la izquierda]

18. Put me on the Buddhist list...

[AsahinaKimi]

29. Check!

Me too. Though I am Shinto Buddhist (Jodo Shinshu)and have Kansai blood.
My ancestor Saburo Asahina

[Blue_Tires]

49. fascinating...

how long ago was that?

[AsahinaKimi]

56. 12th/13th Century

Asahina Pass in Kamakura
his is one of Kamakura's seven Kiridoshi, or steep slopes, and is designated a national historic site. To make a passage connecting Kamakura to Mutsuura, construction of this road was commenced in 1241 under the command of Hojo Yasutoki, the Shikken officer who held the real power in the government. The name Asahina comes from the legend that a man named Asahina Saburo Yoshihide cut the road overnight.






In this print, the actor Bando Sanpachi i (d. 1770) as the warrior Asahina Saburo, brandishes a battle fan as he assumes the powerful fixed pose (mie) that marks a climactic point in a battle scene. The actor's crests appear in large circular motifs on his costume, which is decorated with auspicious Chinese symbols and a crane that signifies long life. This print by Kiyotsune, whose family specialized in actor designs, represents the actor in an aragoto role that displays the bold, masculine style that became a specialty of Edo actors. ASAHINA SABURŌ 朝比奈三郎, Strong warrior of the XIIth Century, son of TOMOE GOZEN. His prowess and feats of strength are often found illustrated in many Japanese paintings.




There is a Buddha figure caved in the cliff on your left side. Asaina Kiridoshi(朝夷奈切通し).
“Kiridoshi(切通し)”is a road that was cut through the hills. The central part of Kamakura is surrounded by hills on three sides. It’s a good natural fortress. This is one of the reasons “Minamoto no Yoritomo” chose this place to set up his government. On the other hand people in the town needed traveling and transportation of goods to and from the town. For that reason they cut through some places of hills. There are seven “Kiritoshi” in Kamakura. Here“Asahina Kiridoshi”was a main road to the“Kanazawa”region.　It was cut in 1240. At that time, a hero named Asahina-Saburo-Yoshihede cut a ridge open overnight. So here has been called Asahina-Kiridoshi.
All Kiridoshi were constructed in strategically. The roads were narrow barely wide enough for a man on horseback to pass through in order to easy to defend from enemy attack.

[chillspike]

81. That is cool

you know who your ancestors were from that far back???!!! And you have portraits of them too???!!!

[AlbertCat]

164. you know who your ancestors were from that far back???!!!

We all know our ancestors.... from even way farther back...

We all came from a small band of hunter/gatherers in South Africa.


Or we can go back to the 1st fish to drag itself onto land.


Or the 1st replicating molecule.


Just what are the statutes of limitations on ancestry?

[chillspike]

172. Yea, but she knows their names...lol

[AsahinaKimi]

216. Down below this posting are some of the names

My father did some research not too long ago. I am not too surprised at him finding this, as Japan is a fairly small place, island nation, with a well documented history. The tales of battles between warring clans were written down, the names of those involved, those who lived and those who died. There are even shrines to some of them. Those who were in service to the Shogun and the Emperor were rewarded with more than just rice and land, but recorded in history as well.

[chillspike]

220. I guess I shouldn't be surprised either

But still amazing!!! The vast majority of humanity doesn't make it into the history books so accolades to your ancestors. :)

[Auntie Bush]

134. Doesn't look like he ever bounced and ancester babies on his knee.

Must be so interesting looking up your ancestry.

[AsahinaKimi]

138. here is more..

The Asahina Kamon.

The Asahina of Suruga province were descended from Wada Yoshimori (1147-1213), whose 3rd son Yoshihide adopted the name Asahina. They entered the Sengoku Period as a chief Imagawa retainer family and were represented by two branches, one of which produced Asahina Yasutomo while the other was headed by Asahina Nobuoki. The Asahina became especially important after the Imagawa defeat at Okehazama in 1560, for afterwards Imagawa Ujizane came to rely on them to maintain order within his domain. Following the collapse of the Imagawa in 1569, the Asahina became vassals of the conquering Takeda. When the Takeda were in turn destroyed, surviving Asahina entered the service of Tokugawa Ieyasu.

[a la izquierda]

83. Wow! How old is that painting?

[AsahinaKimi]

136. Probably painted during the edo period

That style of art came in around the 1600s. Long after he was dead.

[a la izquierda]

175. That's so fascinating...

I wish I knew more about my ancestry. I can trace my husband's back to 16th century England. His family came from the landed elite in both England and France (his great x however-many grandfathers married a French noblewoman).

[hifiguy]

194. He looks like a serious bad-ass

Definitely someone I would not want to cross or mess with.

Incredibly cool that you can trace your ancestry back that far!

[AsahinaKimi]

215. I am sure he was..

The Asahina were a clan of Samurai..

Here is Shunsho Asahina



and Kuniyoshi Asahina



another one of Saburo Asahina



The Asahina Kamon.

The Asahina of Suruga province were descended from Wada Yoshimori (1147-1213), whose 3rd son Yoshihide adopted the name Asahina. They entered the Sengoku Period as a chief Imagawa retainer family and were represented by two branches, one of which produced Asahina Yasutomo while the other was headed by Asahina Nobuoki. The Asahina became especially important after the Imagawa defeat at Okehazama in 1560, for afterwards Imagawa Ujizane came to rely on them to maintain order within his domain. Following the collapse of the Imagawa in 1569, the Asahina became vassals of the conquering Takeda. When the Takeda were in turn destroyed, surviving Asahina entered the service of Tokugawa Ieyasu.

These came from one of my ancestors.
http://twitpic.com/14wmq4

[Blue_Tires]

48. +1

[Dragonfli]

71. That would appear to be a likely progression, I am vulnerable as a Buddhist that

also happens to be a Wiccan priest.

For some reason they really hate any beliefs along the lines of "an it harm none, do as thou will".

I do not think they have ever understood the teachings of Jesus. They have stolen his name and use it for hate.

[JoeyT]

77. All those you list would be considered "atheist".

Anyone that doesn't believe in Jesus, and a very narrow and specific interpretation of that would be considered atheists.
Liberal Christians would even be included.

[AsahinaKimi]

151. There would be way too many for them to bother

And besides the fact, how many people escape doing the US Census forms each time? I would like to see them attempt to go into Chinatown and demand all Buddhists register. Any attempt at that, would bring them the wrong results.

[madrchsod]

16. pastor mike`s facebook page.....

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000572098297&ref=profile

and this wonderful blogspot...

http://pastormikeschurch.blogspot.com/


pastor mike has way to much time on his hands....

[and-justice-for-all]

179. I would send that piece of shit a comment...

but then the fuck would have my name.

[Taverner]

19. The Fundie Right needs to STFU

[Raine]

21. What about Agnostics? Will they patronize them part of the time

hoping to catch them in a believing state of mind before they begin to doubt again. :shrug: This is beyond stupid! :silly:

[0rganism]

22. Why don't they just make their own "safe list"?

As in, a list of evangelical Christians who don't need extra "witnessing" and whose businesses can be favored by like-minded fundamentalist freaks?

They could do that on their own through their oh-so-righteous mega-churches, without any help from atheists or people in local government.

[BiggJawn]

38. They have that already.

Most places I've been have some kind of "Christian Business Directory", your one-stop shop for shoddy workmanship and outright rip-offs.

Been my experience that the sign of the Jebus fish on a business means sub-par work and higher-than-average prices.

[JoeyT]

76. +1

And nothing says "I will demand the most expensive stuff and never pay" than "You can trust me, I'm a preacher/pastor/deacon".

Every business owner I know demands payment in full and up front before dealing with a church, and the richer the members, the less likely they are to pay.

[era veteran]

90. Get your money up front from lawyers too

[polmaven]

23. Well, this active Christian says

:wtf:

[LWolf]

24. I suggest a new Constitutional Amendment

clearly guaranteeing every citizen the right to privacy.

[Initech]

186. I'd be totally for that but it'd be pretty difficult to enforce when..

You have "Like us on Facebook" buttons on every damn thing on this planet!

[LWolf]

211. A complex problem, to be sure.

I'm willing to dive in and wrestle with it if we can get some constitutionally guaranteed protections.

[Sal Minella]

25. "Atheist religion" now tied with "National Cathedral" in my

Favorite New Oxymoron of the Week contest.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. NAZIS there I said it

[rhett o rick]

28. Of course you cant rely on a list where the "offenders" volunteer their names. So we will have to

have some kind of test. What would they ask? Do you believe in a god or gods? Probably not. Do you believe in God? I might say yes Allah and that wont do. So how are they going to establish such a list. I am a non-believer but dont like the label atheist. Do I go on the list? Morans.

[scheming daemons]

31. I want to start a fundamentalist Christian registry

So me and my family can go hang out outside their house and point and laugh all day.

[tsuki]

34. No need. They self -proclaim. nt

[demwing]

35. I'm no atheist, but PLEASE put me on the registry list

because there's much better company on this side of the wall than on the "Christian" side

Besides, they'll probably get arount to Pagans, Deists, Hindus, and Buddhists eventually...Think I'll avoid the rush

[ZombieHorde]

106. That could make acquiring a job much more difficult. nt

[WillyT]

36. Ah... The List Makers Surface

:evilfrown:

[hobbit709]

47. I've got a little list, they'll never even be missed

[AlbertCat]

165. I've got a little list, they'll never even be missed

Sing it!

"The lady novelist...

I'm sure she won't be missed..."


Ahhh, Mr Gilbert...

[formercia]

40. The Scarlet Letter

--- A ---

[struggle4progress]

42. A man posts a picture, of himself standing in front of his refrigerator, on the web and

starts calling himself "pastor"

He puts up another webpage and calls it a "church"

He then blogs some of his ideas

One idea he has is to start a "national registry of atheists" so we can know where if people like Richard Dawkins live in our neighborhoods

Mr Dawkins actually lives in the UK, which is a different country than Florida, where the self-appointed pastor blogs and calls his blog a church

[trotsky]

84. That's terrific you feel fine about this.

I'm sure you won't be on his hit list. Yet.

[AtheistCrusader]

168. Some hit lists hit back.

[dmallind]

163. the "like" before Dawkins' name makes it perfectly correct usage. nt

[struggle4progress]

214. I don't think the issue is his grammar: I think the issue is list-keeping, and there

I would be much more concerned about the vast amounts of personal information traded at the corporate level, then about this lone fellow's vague pipe-dream of constructing lists of people whose ideas he doesn't like

[LeftishBrit]

222. Unfortunately if Bachmann or Perry, etc. become president...

there may be even more fusion between the corporation-dominated economic right, and the atheist-hating religious right, than there is already (no doubt the former can make good use of the latter).

Also sooner or later someone like this may choose to do an Anders Breivik.

[AlbertCat]

166. He puts up another webpage and calls it a "church"

Wait... he called his refrigerator a church???












(he might as well have)

[cleanhippie]

209. We can always count on you to try and downplay these things, s4p.

:puke:

[rucky]

43. For baby showers, too, or just weddings?

Do atheists and sex offenders buy different gifts for those occasions?

[pipi_k]

45. I love the last paragraph....

"...ashamed of their atheist religion..."

hahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!


OK, bring it on. Add me to the list, I don't care.

Just do NOT do any preaching or witnessing or trying to warn me of the dangers of Satan.

They don't even want to go there....

[BiggJawn]

46. "We could begin to witness to them..."

In other words, your phone and doorbell would be ringing off the wall with people wanting to invite you to come kiss Hank's Ass with them.

Your windshield wipers would be bent from the weight of all the pounds of Chick Tracts shoved under them.

Your neighbours would be pissed at you over the constant line of people reaching from your front door to down the street and around the block.

And the Police won't do shit because well, hell, they loves them some Jebus, too.

Maybe I could find a nice Unitarian family to hide me in a secret room in their attic...

[Odin2005]

50. More like they would torture us untill we "accepted Jebus into our heart".

[JHB]

99. That's not counting those less reasonable than the good pastor...

...(that's :sarcasm: btw) who might be more inclined to take a more active role in pre-emptively removing "threats" to their community. Like the Hannity/oreilly fan who shot up that Unitarian church, or the assortment of "pro-life" doctor assasins.

[xmas74]

153. Methodist here

and we're doing work on a room in the basement. I'm sure you could live down there with all the canned goods.

Bring the tracts-we like to put those in the recycle bin. We don't like wasting our natural resources.

[smirkymonkey]

171. I don't think Unitarians would classify under their warped idea

as to what a "Christian" is. They are generally too educated and liberal for these nuts.

[Odin2005]

51. These lunatics needs to be tried and convicted for treason. this is is anti-American.

[Solly Mack]

52. And why not just make'em wear some identifying mark on their clothing too

[Alcibiades]

53. Who gives a shit?

Obviously a loser. He needs help.

[BiggJawn]

54. Hate to risk a "Godwin"

But I believe the same thing was said about Hitler in the mid-20's...

[backscatter712]

55. Hey, I already pre-Godwined the thread in the OP...

but in this day and age, I'm coming to the conclusion, that the idea of Godwin's Law being used to shut down a discussion because it brings up Hitler or the Nazis is bullshit.

Sometimes, the comparison fits.

Look at what burgeoning repressive regimes do while they're trying to gain power. They make enemies-lists, and the Nazis were far from the first to do it - look at Madame Defarge's knitting from A Tale of Two Cities. I seriously doubt that Charles Dickens was the first to come up with this idea.

[LanternWaste]

122. It is also said about the Reconquista movement, Scientology, and the One World Government movement

It is also said about the Reconquista movement, Scientology, and the One World Government movement.

I've often noticed that allowing credence and credibility to an absurdity actually allows the absurd to gain credence and credibility when it would otherwise not... :shrug:

[spanone]

57. how about registering those ignorant assholes?

[undeterred]

58. Or maybe there could be a gift registry for atheists like we have for brides

So we could throw showers for atheists when they "come out" as atheists and we would know what gifts they would like. I think that kind of registry would be really handy.

[Initech]

67. Now that idea I like. Could I register that 2012 Charger I've had my eye on?

:evilgrin: :toast:

[undeterred]

96. Well, don't be one of those obnoxious atheists who only picks

really expensive gifts and forgets about the poorer guests! :hi:

[Initech]

177. We can register at Newegg then!

[Baby Bear]

59. I am an Agnostic

Which means I don't know anything about God. But I do know that a lot of people are talking about heaven who aren't going there.

[sarge43]

103. I'm an agnostic and I'm somewhat irked we won't be included.

I know we have the rep of being non-committal and wimpy, but our doubts should be seen as threatening and count for something.

:sarcasm: just in case

[RobinA]

193. Agnostics

Probably in this guy's opinion there's some hope for agnostics. You may be wimpy and noncommittal, but you don't roast babies on a spit like atheists. Any good evangelist should have a good chance of bringing you around to their way of thinking. Only after you prove yourself inconvertable do you have to register.

[sarge43]

196. Point taken, except

about that roasting babies thing. My branch of The Wimpy Agnostics for Something or Other or Not As You See Fit does enjoy the occasional post meeting snack of lightly sauteed neonate. We think roasting them is going too far ... or not.

[Lucian]

60. We should compile a list of crazy batshit insane christians online.

I mean, if I move into a neighborhood, I want to know which neighbor(s) to avoid.

And what the fuck is wrong with them to compare atheists to child molesters?

[roamer65]

62. Their "Antichrist" will come from their fundie ranks AND...

they will readily take his "Mark of the Beast".

Mark my words.

These people are not Christians.

[Initech]

66. From my Bible-study days the one verse that always stood out for me was...

How Jesus said that the dark one will pose as creature of light. I forget the book / verse, but that one really made things interesting. If only he could have seen the "Christian" republicans of today, they'd make his head explode.

[mod mom]

104. It seems like many fundies are Antichrists as demonstrated in their rhetoric.

[ohheckyeah]

63. And of course you have to be a

'member' of his blog to comment. What a coward.

[Time for change]

64. What an idiot.

"we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan...

Frankly , I don't see why anyone would oppose this idea - including the atheists themselves."


Duh. Maybe they don't want to have their businesses boycotted - or maybe they don't want to be killed by crazy Christian fundie hypocrites.

[harun]

65. What could possibly go wrong?

[MattBaggins]

69. This avowed atheist says to go fuck yourselves fundie idiot.

jackasses

[me b zola]

72. As a believer i am so very sorry that all of this hate and bs is directed at atheists

And you know, I feel i have so much more in common with many atheists then I do with other believers.

No one in my life ever opened up to me (now I understand why) and told me that they were an atheist, so I never understood just how much bullshit is shoved their way. Then I came to DU in 2004 and was given the opportunity to read many posts by atheists and got to hear about their individual experiences and it made me very sad. Part of the sadness was that I'm sure that i've had non believing friends who never felt "safe" enough to open up to me, to tell me all of who they were.

I hate this shit. Hate it.

[steve2470]

75. I'm a very liberal Christian and agree with you

These idiots torture non-believers and make the rest of us look very very bad.

[booley]

78. I support this fully

The more people this guy preaches too, the more atheists will come about.

Idiots like this can only serve to push people to their total BS limit.

[FloridaJudy]

80. Jews get a yellow star

Gays get a pink triangle.

What do we get - a blue question mark?

[LiberalLovinLug]

174. I think that would go to the Agnostics

Maybe a black circle.
The big bang. Black hole. The void of space.

Could be a button, with the words "God loves Atheists" on it

[sofa king]

82. In the meantime, the "batshit fundie" registry is growing.

Keep signing those petitions, knuckledraggers....

[GreenPartyVoter]

111. LOL You have a point. I think they are doing this because we can already identify so many of them by

their Fish symbols and "In case of rapture, this vehicle will be be unmanned bumper stickers on their cars, and the crosses and Christian and American flags plastered on everything else.

[SoCalDem]

85. registries?

aren't people these days against those types of things?

A registry that guaranteed all citizens national health care or the ability to vote without impediment, is somehow seen as a horrible idea, but when religious/non-religious people decide to line up on sides & identify themselves on paper..well ..something's squirrelly here to be sure..

[Vinca]

86. Oh, jeez, keep me off the list. I don't want anyone "witnessing" to me.

:rofl:

[Le Taz Hot]

87. Let's all register!

:evilgrin:

[Vinca]

89. We've got to at least take some kind of pledge.

:fistbump:

[AzDar]

93. I would urge this douchebag to open his Book Of Fairy tales to St. John 12:47 :

" ...And If Any Man Hear My Words And Believe Not, I Judge Him Not; For I Came Not To Judge The World, But To Save It" .

:eyes:

[trotsky]

100. Please continue on to verse 48.

"There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day."

Plenty of ammo for the batshit fundies to be found in the bible.

[AzDar]

152. My point being that Jeebus himself chose not to judge one's lack of faith, so...

maybe, just maybe, these assholes shouldn't, either. :hi:

[trotsky]

162. On the contary, he uses the same weasely tactic that the fundies love.

"Oh I'm not judging you, GOD is!"

[chrisa]

94. LOL

[Zephie]

95. I wonder if they'll include the minor children of anyone on this propsed list?

I don't doubt that those children would be treated as pariahs at schools by evangelical students or teachers. Some would lose friends, and I'm sure some kids grades would drop for imagined behavior issues that weren't there before.

[LibertyLover]

98. If such a thing like this guy's proposed list were ever to happen

I would wager that there would be a strong push by so-called "Christians" to remove those minor children from their atheistic parents' households as a way to "save" them. I imagine the charge would be child abuse or child endangerment.

[Zephie]

101. That's certainly one of my concerns

I'm not strictly concerned for the atheists children either. I'm sure minority religions are included in their greater plans and by your avatar I'm sure you're in the same boat I would be in this case if you have kids. The children of Pagans are more often targeted than other religions for imaginary child endangerment charges. I know my husbands family would try to take my son from me if he ever died for religious reasons...

[LibertyLover]

139. No doubt about it,

it would be first they came for the Atheists, then they came for the agnostics, then the pagans, the heathens, the Wiccans, the Buddhists, the Hindus, and so on. We are not close to anyone in either my husband's family or mine, so I'm probably ok with respect to my daughter, but I'm sure there is some group out there who would love to take her away from us because we are not Christian. Gods, but it is a frightening thought.

[Amaril]

110. You betcha!

Some fundie group somewhere is probably already tossing around the idea of legislation that would force ALL minor children -- regardless of their parents' religious preference -- to attend Fundie Jeebus (as opposed to the Christian Jesus) camp during their summer breaks.

[chrisa]

119. Of course they would. The only people they actually care about are unborn infants.

Or actually, that should be embryos.

[Shagbark Hickory]

97. Hard to believe there's someone that religiously crazy in miramar.

I used to live very close to miramar.

[Amaril]

125. Oh, they're there.

I (until about a year ago) worked in Pompano Beach, and it was not uncommon to be accosted at the Publix (in Palm Aire) by a Fundie. There were two Fundie Teabagger types (a mother & son team) that worked in my office. I hate to see anybody lose their jobs in this economy, but it was actually a blessing when the mom got the heave-ho (due to her nasty, negative attitude) and the son indignantly followed her out the door. I swear, you could actually FEEL the collective *sigh* as the entire office relaxed and the atomosphere became lighter.

[Shagbark Hickory]

210. Ok, Santeria fundiez I can see happening there. Christian fundiez otoh

I'll just have to take your word for it.

[lonestarnot]

105. What a totally ignorant fuckwad!

[ZombieHorde]

107. This would be used by many employers to discriminate. nt

[lapislzi]

112. Oh, lord (irony intended)

I was all ready to sign up, thinking to myself, "great, I won't have these jerks knocking on my door with their batshittery," until I got to the part about them "witnessing" to me. Oh, fuck me. Don't these people have anything better to do? Tend to the poor and helpless, or some kind of actual do-goodery? Why must they pester those of us quietly minding our own business?

[mike_c]

113. sign me up....

Mike C. Atheist.

[Dogtown]

114. Christian bigotry.

Becoming more blatant.

[Lorien]

115. And why is no one here leaving comments on his blog? nt

[FloridaJudy]

185. Because you have to sign up for it.

Even I'm not that crazy!

[A HERETIC I AM]

116. The reason Atheism scares so many fervent believers...(Edited)

is because knowing there are people who do not hold the same beliefs sheds doubt on those very beliefs. If there are some who don't buy the bullshit story, it may indeed be a bullshit story, and well, they just can't have that.

Edited to add, perhaps "scares" is the wrong word.

"Concerns" or "Bothers" may be more appropriate, but it really does boil down to fear. Fear they are wrong, and the tiny godless minority are correct.

And edited to add this;

[Sheepshank]

117. I know of so many more christians with guns...than non christians.

And it's not so much the possession of the weapon that I find fascinating as much as the likliness and willingness to pull the trigger when the barrel is pointing towards another human being.

[RKP5637]

167. And moreover in god's name, god's army, do it for jesus, whatever. These

people make a hypocrisy of religion. For many, it's an old fashion hate club, and that's so unfortunate. The good elements of religion are blurred out. I'm not a religious person at all, but jesus did say some good things, and I don't think armed weapons in his name, and a lot of the other stuff, were his intentions.

[MilesColtrane]

118. What are these so-called Christians so fucking afraid of?

[A HERETIC I AM]

121. See my post #116

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1834498&mesg_id=1837825

[NoodleyAppendage]

141. They are afraid that the man in the clouds really DOESN'T EXIST.

Any thing or anyone that reminds them of the nagging thought in the back of their small minds that gOD doesn't actually exist is a threat to their pitifully small egos.

If gOD doesn't exist (which most intelligent beings know is highly likely), then it means that these peoples' pitiful and lowly lives are just that. No big mansion or virgins in the sky to alleviate their suffering on Earth. It's a big let down.

BTW - I just watched "The Invention of Lying" this weekend on Netflix that dealt (quite humourously) with this subject. Highly recommend it!

[Roy Rolling]

120. C'mon, really . . .

Repeating the rantings of batshit crazies is doing their job of distribution for them. There are many good Christian people and many good atheistic people, enlisting in the armies of the radicals of either side is the problem. I'm sure you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem----don't give radical morons more media coverge by publishing their rants.

[Xithras]

123. And how would people get on this list? Get off it?

I could have a lot of fun listing the entire memberships of some of our local evangelical churches in this directory *many churches publish member lists so their members can socialize and support each others businesses). If their members ever cracked open their Bibles and READ them, they'd realize that they aren't really Christians anyway.

If the system is easy to remove yourself from, any atheist can delete their own entry. If it's difficult to remove yourself from, it would be easy to so badly flood the database with garbage entries that the "registry" would be useless.

You can complain about it, or you can monkeywrench it. I've always been the more "proactive" type :)

[Amaril]

128. Oh, they'll know who is who

[rug]

124. This idiocy is DOA.

[KansDem]

126. The irony is atheists/agnostics know more about religion than the "faithful"

Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says

Report says nonbelievers know more, on average, about religion than most faithful. Jews and Mormons also score high on the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey.

September 28, 2010|By Mitchell Landsberg, Los Angeles Times

If you want to know about God, you might want to talk to an atheist.

Heresy? Perhaps. But a survey that measured Americans' knowledge of religion found that atheists and agnostics knew more, on average, than followers of most major faiths. In fact, the gaps in knowledge among some of the faithful may give new meaning to the term "blind faith."

--more--
LA Times


Afterthought (not from the article)--

[KansDem]

127. self-deleted

duplicate

[jwirr]

129. I am Christian but this is an issue that I would help to fight as long as

we have to. This is crazy and the most fascist action they have demanded. They are a bunch of bullies.

[SemperEadem]

130. the fundamental flaw in his reasoning is that he thinks he has

the right to know another person's religious beliefs. That is not one of his constitutionally guaranteed rights. Nor is it any of his or his friends or his family's business what another person believes.

What any other person believes is not fit for this cretin to know. Period.

Atheism is not a crime. Not believing in God is not a crime nor are there heresy laws in this country. Perhaps he needs to go read some European history of the mid 15th through 18th centuries between the Catholics and Protestants because his ignorance of it is stunning.

[YankeyMCC]

131. I only looked quickly but he looks to have not many followers

Is he just an online preacher?

[on point]

132. How about registering fundies and keeping them from any profession that requires sanity?

I mean these crazy delusional fools should not be allowed in any profession that influences children, or is responsible for health, safety, science, control of safety equipment etc. Certainly no ethical roles such as lawyer, judge, sheriff, police officer, Dr.

They should be limited to roles where their insanity would not put others in danger and might be suitable to their competency level, perhaps circus clown, comic relief buffoon on Jerry Springer, day laborer or perhaps cow manure cleaner.

All of their 'schooled at home' (ie brainwashed and made stupid) children should be required to pass annual tests on facts in the real world, which if they fail they must attend a real school because they obviously aren't getting an education.

Lest anyone mistake my sarcasm, these are just turn the table comments on these dangerous idiots.

This is EXACTLY why there is a separation of church and state in the constitution. In order to protect the rest of us from crazy people clinging to the last stone age.

[Ilsa]

144. And to deny them medicine and treatment based on modern scientific concepts

And theories that contradict their religious beliefs.

For example, if they believe the world is flat, then they could be exempted from cancer treatments that are based on the radioactive half-life or radiation, etc

[NoodleyAppendage]

137. Sometimes I weep for the sheer stupidity of some religious zealots.

It's clear that the first poster has no clue about the history of oppressive regimes and probably only has rudamentary knowledge of his/her religion. This sort of person is the most dangerous - malleable by power and dogma.

J

[avebury]

140. He would have fit in with the Nazis. nt

[bongbong]

143. FSM

Oh Goody! I hope there is a Pastafarian Registry too!

[Shandris]

145. And people wondered why I was against sex offender registries.

Nice big can of worms THAT opened, wasn't it.

Register everyone, I say. If you're going to stigmatize one, stigmatize EVERYone. It's the only way to either A) show how fucking stupid this entire concept is, or B) remove the stigma from any 'registry'.

[xmas74]

147. My younger brother is an atheist, I'm mainline Protestant.

No way would I ever dream of a list. If that's the case, then why not make a list of each and every person's beliefs, in case they feel that they aren't "up to snuff".

I can see my brother being none too pleased if someone comes to his house to witness. He's not much of a gun person but I can see him making an exception.

[LeftishBrit]

148. This is truly scary

[Honeycombe8]

149. I think that would be against the law. Possibly a "hate" crime, or as affecting

religious freedom (which includes the freedom NOT to be religious), OR violates privacy laws.

[saras]

150. Projection, pure and simple. They understand that they are this criminal themselves.

"The only thing that will get me on such a list is a SWAT team pointing assault rifles at my head."

Yeah. They know that. They don't have a problem with it. They have the rifles, and they're working on control over the SWAT teams. Is YOUR local police department as progressive as the rest of your city? How about the military? Homeland Security? How many leftists do you think work for Homeland Security?

[Crunchy Frog]

154. How about a batshit crazy fundy registry?

I mean, they're not the only ones who can play that kind of game.

[KarenS]

155. I agree!!

I also like to know who I'm dealing with :)

[LaurenG]

156. Really!? Why is it anyones business and is the constitution really just tp now?

as for Pastor Mike, right back at you: "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh" ( Matt. 12:34 ) If the Pastor doesn't understand how evil what he is attempting is, here's his clue.

http://www.answers.com/topic/first-amendment-to-the-united-states-constitution

[AlbertCat]

157. In which case we could begin to witness to them

Yikes...

that's reason alone to forget this idea!



Arrogant dupes.

[AlbertCat]

158. I don't know what it is that makes them think we atheists eat babies or something

Their church leaders tell them that.

Don't want those sources of donations to question their beliefs, y'know.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

159. The fundies have used this to threaten gays for years.

Now they are spreading their hate around a bit more these days.

[tpsbmam]

Next they'll suggest atheists wear a yellow armband with a big A emblazoned on it

What a bunch of fascist freakazoids!

:crazy:

[Initech]

188. You know the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.

[tpsbmam]

169. Next they'll suggest atheists wear a yellow armband with a big A emblazoned on it

What a bunch of fascist freakazoids!

:crazy:

[stockholmer]

173. Jesus and Johnny Cash render judgement onto Pastor Mike

[SpankMe]

176. I had a similar idea for a registry some time back.

I wanted to create a registry of global warming deniers. I'd keep their names, addresses, pictures, known associations, activities - anything relevant to tracking them - on a master registry accessible online. I'd have people submit candidate individuals for the registry who'd then be investigated before inclusion on the registry. These would be both prominent people (like scientists, elected officials, regulators, etc.) as well as regular citizens.

Then, when climate change increases to where the consequences are even more serious, obvious, widespread and immediate (due to the activism of the deniers and their elected government supporters) these people can be tracked down and prosecuted for crimes against the earth and humanity.

In fact, as a response to this atheist registry proposal, we should go out on blogs and propose our own special registries. Here's a few:

Climate change deniers.

Science skeptics and deniers.

Those who favor waterboarding or torture to advance the nation's "security".

Rabid, psychotic anti-gay orientation.

Please submit ideas for other registries as a reply to this message.

[and-justice-for-all]

178. OOOHHHHHHHHH REALLY!!!!!!!????

FUCK YOU.

[obxhead]

181. The right to openly practice the religion of your choice... as long

as it's Christian.

Fuck these whack jobs, which spoil it for the saner group of believers.

[TheKentuckian]

182. More weapons grade stupid.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Hubert Flottz]

183. K&R

Next they will take the non-believers right to vote, but never the right to pay taxes, or to die in their elective oil wars.

[xxqqqzme]

184. Only if there is a list of

3RWs. Rabid, religious right whackos. I need to know my money isn't being spent to send missionaries to harass people in other countries.

[sakabatou]

187. Apparently, he thinks the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to us

[Lars77]

189. How long can this evolve until people start emigrating FROM the us to get away from religion?

That would have to be the biggest irony in the history of mankind.

[kestrel91316]

190. Oh yeah. Because, you know, it's a CRIME not to believe in teh Baby Jeebus.

[greiner3]

191. Where do I sign up;

I'd be in better company than most churches, Republican Party and school boards across this Theocracy.

[hifiguy]

192. So help me, I am going to have to think about buying a gun

a left wing friend of mine says that a good 9mm has plenty of stopping power.

The fascism is so out in the open now it is no longer laughable. I hope a piano falls on this fuckstick in the near future. :grr:

I, too, am Phil Small.

[tea and oranges]

195. What Would be Better?

A registry of preachers, ministers, rabbis, reverends, whatevers, who advocate hate for anyone even the teensiest bit different than they are. I'm not advocating this, just sayin', that if we're making lists, let's do it right!

Also, this particular hate-monger seems a bit obscure, but other Florida hate-mongers have made the big-time by advocating burning Korans. Nothing worse than a hate-ridden attention whore!

[JDPriestly]

197. Why would they bother?

In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism, Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan .

What a waste of time.

I don't happen to consider myself an atheist, but this sort of "witnessing" can be quite annoying, especially when the "witnesser" has the rational capacity of a monkey.

In case you become the target of one of these "witnessers" and you cannot politely excuse yourself from the forced indoctrination session, just start asking a lot of "interested" questions, like "What does God look like?" "Where is God right now?" "Will God be annoyed if I pray all day and don't do anything else?" Just keep on asking. Of course you ask follow up questions all the time. But what if you are wrong? But what if God really gets mad because I am praying too much? Does God really have a white beard? Etc.

Waste more of their time than they can waste of yours. You never know, you might both learn something -- and for sure the person you question with this Socratic method will.

I would like to add, that the average skeptic, and those of us who have worked hard to reach our own understanding of "God" have probably asked ourselves a lot more important questions and worked much harder at finding answers we can accept than the average "witnesser" who most likely is responding to fear, guilt and a lot of social gratification and pressure.

Now, mind you, there are lots of very sincere religious people who have also worked hard to understand their personal faith, but it is highly unlikely that they will want to join this movement that involves placing social pressure on people who happen to disagree with them or express their beliefs in language other than their own.

So, be prepared.

[FiveGoodMen]

198. TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, AMERICA!

They won't hesitate if they get the chance.

Fundies are the greatest enemy the human race has ever had.

[Lunabelle]

200. Do agnostics get an asterisk by their name?

I lean toward atheism, but still find myself praying. Old habits die hard. I'm a recovering christian.

[provis99]

201. I wonder: is this a Poe's Law type blog?

[sulphurdunn]

202. We need lions.

Lots of lions, bigger and hungrier lions, and I'm not talking about football.

[hifiguy]

204. Indeed

So many fundy talibornagains, so few lions. What a pity.

[Devil_Fish]

203. Atheisism is not a religion ass hole. NT

[Name removed]

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206. Prime Minister of Australia Julia Gillard

when being sworn in swore and oath, in other words she did not swear on the Bible - she is not religious.

Look around the world, from Great Britain, switzerland, Norway, Germany, France - the United States (Obama), Jesus and God moved out of the Church and Vatican a long, long time ago and straight into Westminster and Congress.

Disgusting.

[roamer65]

207. When people like this divide us Americans, they want something.

What is it they want?

Look to Nazi Germany for the answers.

[GReedDiamond]

208. I propose that a National Registry...

...of bigoted, dumbass, willfully ignorant, motherfucking asshole, shitbag Teavangelicals be established.

First name on the list: Pastor Mike.



Fucking moron.

[grantcart]

212. Oh sign me up

When I get through schooling them on the Hebrew and Greek bible they never come back.

I moved next door and two weeks later the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons both visited.

The Mormon 'leader' kept looking on the cheat sheet for forbidden addresses and couldn't figure it out.

The JW 'leader' finally admitted "oh yeah we have talked with you before" and must have thought that they noted the wrong address.

Now the next time someone suggest that the Muslims do something about the Taliban you can tell them that you have a list that you would like to put their names on and they will get a visit from an American Taliban.

[lindysalsagal]

213. I miss the old days: Burning people at the stake. That worked, didn't it?

Evil will always have a safe house in the church.

Apologies to believers on here: I know there are truly respectful and sincere believers who would never condone anything like this. But know that you will always have among you those who would use religion (all religions) for evil, if allowed.

Forcing people to identify publicly as religious works just as well as forcing people to renounce their personal beliefs publicly.

America's purpose is to provide sanity and security for all of us, while allowing all of our diverse beliefs.

[WinkyDink]

217. This level of stupidity is ...is...there are no words.

[Ferricadouzer]

218. They want registration today; concentration tomorrow.

[marlakay]

219. We are definitely discriminated against

especially in small rural bible belt areas. There are some non church people here but we are definitely the minority. My husband has got all the way to being told he had a job until they found out he didn't go to church. Of course they just called a few days later and said the boss had hired someone else (we found out later from their church) and a girl we ran into months later who worked there told us he didn't get job because when they asked what he did on the weekends he didn't mention church.

My so called christian neighbors and Fox lovers are some of the worst neighbors I have ever had. They have come over drunk to accuse us of things we haven't done, they screamed at us when mad at Obama (we didn't even start conversation) we see one of the husbands in about every local bar in town.

One of the neighbors had an affair and on and on....

I feel like even though I don't go to church I have better morals than they do. Not perfect but better....

[Name removed]

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[RegieRocker]

223. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.

Some on both sides do NOT tolerate each other.