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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 10:46 AM
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Press Release: Veteran and Military Spouse Dragged from Rumsfeld Book Signing
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 10:53 AM by kpete
Press Release: Veteran and Military Spouse Dragged from Rumsfeld Book Signing
By JOSEPH | Published: AUGUST 27, 2011 |

“All I could do was just really be happy at that moment that I got to tell Donald to his face that he was a liar,” she said in an interview this evening, “and put a face to a soldier that because of him is no longer alive.”

Read more: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/military/2011/08/27/rangers-widow-ejected-from-rumsfeld-book-signing/#ixzz1WL5jSU3U



Today, military spouse Ashley Joppa-Hagemann and anti-war veteran Jorge Gonzalez went on Joint Base Lewis-McChord to meet with Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld, most infamous for his part in leading the United States into the bloody wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, was at JBLM to promote his New York Times bestselling book Known and Unknown: A Memoir.

Mrs. Joppa-Hagemann introduced herself by handing a copy of her husband’s funeral program to Rumsfeld, and telling him that her husband had joined the military because he believed the lies told by Rumsfeld during his tenure with the Bush Administration. She then recounted her husband’s painful story of eight deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, his battle with PTSD, and eventual suicide, for which she blamed the military and Rumsfeld himself whose only response was to callously quip, “Oh yeah, I heard about that.” Despite the reply, Mrs. Joppa-Hagemann continued to lay the blame directly at the feet of Rumsfeld and the military for not providing enough care for soldiers and veterans returning from deployments in combat zones. However, within moments Ashley and Jorge were dragged from the Post Exchange by a group of 5-6 security agents and military police officers, and told not to return.

Former Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld’s uncaring response is demonstrative of the attitude taken by many at the top-levels of the U.S. government. While they seize any opportunity to participate at a photo-op in front of expensive new barracks facilities or publicly praise the sacrifice of service members, they rarely take even a moment to honestly listen to those whose lives are overturned by their failed policies and poor planning. If politicians and top-level officials truly care about Joint Base Lewis-McChord and other military communities they’ll begin to listen to the folks—like Ashley Joppa-Hagemann—who are most affected by the negative consequences of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/military/2011/08/27/rangers-widow-ejected-from-rumsfeld-book-signing/
http://www.coffeestrong.org/press-release-veteran-and-military-spouse-dragged-from-rumsfeld-book-signing/
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 10:57 AM
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1. By the same logic by which Goring was held for future War Crimes
trials at Nuremburg, Rumsfeld should be facing war crimes charges of his own. The fact that Rumsfeld and other Bush Junta mucky-mucks face no consequences whatsoever to their sociopathy explains why I've pretty much given up on America as what Lincoln referred to as the 'last, best hope' and now think of her as simply one more failed republican (emphasis on lower-case 'r') experiment.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:07 AM
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3. Yeah - Rumsfeld and his CONspirators walk free
while federal agents shut down the Gibson guitar factory in a move to defend INDIAN export laws!!!! This country has become awash in it's own feces.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:43 PM
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13. I prefer Guild and Taylor acoustics personally, but the Gibson Les Paul electric series
and the L5 vintage jazz boxes are without peer in the industry.
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 06:49 AM
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44. AGREE!
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:05 PM
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16. say? who was it made that decision? to violate our laws
and not prosecute war criminals? can you say Obama?
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 06:29 AM
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43. I don't think Rumsfeld is still sending troops to Iraq
I think that is the job of the current guys in charge. No wonder there are no trials.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:06 AM
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2. That's a great photo - IVAW.ORG - there's a 2.4MB 4000x3000 pixel image linked at the article
You can read the t-shirt clearly, it says "Iraq Veterans
Against the War * IVAW.ORG"
Here's the direct url:
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/military/files/2011/08/CIMG2013.jpg

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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:09 AM
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4. K&R
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:11 AM
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5. It took 5 or 6 security guards to drag two peaceful people out?
Lucky Rummy. Always prepared.
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:37 PM
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25. You go to the book signing with the security team that you have -- not the security team that you...
How hard is it to prosecute war criminals? Apparently, the rule of law is a lot harder to apply that what I would have thought.

I hope W says something so egregious tonight in his "interview" that most Americans start looking backwards at what has been done in our names.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:13 AM
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6. Red Rummy Red Rummy
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:06 PM
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50. heh ...
:thumbsup:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:26 AM
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7. Posts should not be used for civilian purposes
who was the scumbag that authorized his appearance?
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:05 PM
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17. That is an interesting question...I hope someone has an answer.
:argh:
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:37 PM
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26. Happens all the time - the exchange is like any other store
they bring in authors on book tours all the time.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:54 PM
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29. They have rules, this is acceptable
It was at a post exchange, basically a store. Authors show up all the time to promote their books.

I remember Dan Ackroyd went on tour of some bases supporting his Crystal Head brand of vodka.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:27 AM
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8. anyone know when Ft. Lewis was joined with Mchord?
My son was born at McChord in 68, when his dad was still in military, I have not been in that area for decades now, had no idea they combined the 2 bases, but it does make sense to have done so.
Now they will have to decontaminate it since Rummy has been there.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:33 PM
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24. Happened about two years ago.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:30 PM
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35. Thank you.
:hi:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:42 AM
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9. K&R
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:22 PM
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10. Incredibly powerful move by 2 brave people.

Rec. with the hope of further publicizing this one.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:23 PM
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11. K&R
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:34 PM
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12. The best thing family members and vets do is to not buy his book. Protest
peacefully outside the post he will be at. Why is he on a military base in the first place?
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 01:21 PM
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14. I must have misread this.
It can`t be true that the wife of a DEAD U.S. soldier deployed EIGHT times to Iraq and Afghanistan and an anti-war VETERAN were dragged from the Post Exchange by security agents and military police officers so war criminal Donald Rumsfeld`s life would be easier.

And why was war criminal Donald Rumsfeld selling his book on a military base?

USA! USA! USA! USA!

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bluestateboomer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:02 PM
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15. It's obvious he doesn't care about the lives he's affected.
His book should be titled, " How Me and My Friends Got Rich Giving the Military the Shaft". Kind of an unwieldy title, but you get the idea. Thank you Ashley and Jorge.
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James48 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:06 PM
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18. Redrum Redrum Redrum
Donald will burn in hell in perpetuity for the war crimes he committed.

His intentions may have been good. But his execution was entirely irresponsible, and he deserves to be tried and convicted of the war crimes he committed.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:51 PM
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36. There is no hell for him to burn in and he's living the high life right now. nt
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:08 AM
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45. Unfortunately, there really isn't any hell except the one he created here on earth.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:07 PM
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51. You give him too much credit,
James. His intentions were selfish and evil.

Evil lives, and his names are Rumsfeld and Cheney.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:08 PM
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19. I wonder what it costs
the American taxpayer to protect this reptile as it travels around hawking a book it most likely didn't even write?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:38 PM
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20. I think Rummy is a sick mofo who got off on watching
snuff films from abu Gahrib. Very sick, that guy.

I'm not surprised that he made that disgusting remark. Evil, soulless monster.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 02:44 PM
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21. Our Democratic and progressively-elected Commander in Chief could remedy this
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 02:45 PM by truedelphi
In one minute.

I mean, Rumsfeld is no longer in power, right?

The security agents and military officers who arrested this woman are under Mr Obama's purview right now.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:03 PM
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22. Protesters are fungible.
You can have them here or there.

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a2liberal Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:17 PM
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23. K&R (n/t)
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:37 PM
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27. K & R n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 04:42 PM
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28. It sickens me to see him make money off the war he started.
I wonder how much he's donating to veterans and their families?
Never mind......
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Duval Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 05:54 PM
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30. Why doesn't he go ahead and make himself
President of Sociopaths R Us? And invite his friends, Bush and Cheney. :mad: :puke: :argh:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:28 PM
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34. !
:rofl:
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 06:32 PM
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31. K&R
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 06:44 PM
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32. Rumsfeld should be spending
the rest of his days behind bars.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:26 PM
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33. As an atheist, it offends me that the best I can hope for
is that there is a special place in Hell for Rumsfeld.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:54 PM
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37. Eight deployments!!! Rumsfeld is a coward and a piece of shit. The two who
confronted him are courageous Americans.

This veteran salutes them both.

REC. nt

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:04 PM
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38. He represents the sociopathic class. May he rot in hell. nm
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:13 PM
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39. Mrs. Joppa-Hagemann is a hero. Rumsfeld is a sociopath. nt
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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 12:32 AM
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40. Remember when Bush's books were moved by people to the fiction section?
This is worse Rumsfeld, Bush and Dick Cheny are all war criminals and his and Cheney's fantasy novels are an attempt to re-write history and revise the truth.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:09 AM
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49. Hope Cheney's book is moved too. Subsection: Horror.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 05:12 AM
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41. Eight emmeffing combat tours!
EIGHT?!?!

How did that happen?
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 06:01 AM
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42. Good for them
I would like two copies of his book, one to shit on and the other to cover it up. Sort of like the Bush-Rumy method of politics.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:02 AM
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48. And that is a good definition of a shit sandwich -
shit between two piles of shit.
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Aaria Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 10:29 AM
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46. This is how these parasites rewrite history and make money.
They write their BS memoirs and then Right wing groups buy thousands and thousands of copies to give away. Still out to make a buck.
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BetsysGhost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 10:39 AM
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47. aww, he didn't mean it
She then recounted her husband’s painful story of eight deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, his battle with PTSD, and eventual suicide, for which she blamed the military and Rumsfeld himself whose only response was to callously quip, “Oh yeah, I heard about that.”

remember also how he didn't mean it when he said something about Flight 93 being shot down and that missile at the Pentagon?

Come on, give the War Criminal a break!
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