Mother will not have to show her vagina to anyone to prove the 5-month-old infant is hers

[TalkingDog]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Province+relents+making+prove+birth/5315196/story.html

Heather Mattingsly, who gave birth in March, has spent her time since trying to convince the Directeur de l’état civil that even though she engaged the help of an unlicensed midwife to give birth at home, the baby is indeed hers.

Days after the birth and as required, she provided the government agency in charge of issuing birth certificates with an ultrasound, a doctor’s letter and an attestation of birth, but none of that was good enough. This week, the agency said she’d have to get a vaginal examination – a procedure that doctors and midwives alike agreed would prove absolutely nothing.

“They’re saying ‘we’re not doubting the pregnancy, we’re doubting that you birthed a live child’,” said Mattingsly, who is collecting maternity benefits and breastfeeding. “How is a vaginal exam going to prove that?”

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Director Lysane Grégoire said that until April, the government allowed a doctor, midwife or anyone else present at the birth, such as the father or grandmother, to vouch for it. Then suddenly and without explanation, the policy changed, allowing only the signatures of a doctor or midwife. If neither is present, the woman has to go for a medical exam to prove she gave birth.

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#1: It's called DNA testing, dumbasses.
#2: Could you treat women any more like chattel? Wait... don't answer that.
#3: I already called you dumbasses, but I feel like once wasn't enough. Dumbasses.

[geomon666]

1. WTF? Why would you even demand something like that?

Get out of the dark ages man.

[TwilightGardener]

2. I agree--DNA testing if there's doubt, same as they use for fathers.

[hobbit709]

3. What a crock.

What if they required the father to have a definitive prostate exam to prove he's the daddy. Makes about as much sense.

[Ilsa]

4. Exactly: a prostate exam wouldn't prove he's the daddy. Only that he

still has a prostate and might be capable of procreation
1. If he hasn't had a vasectomy,
2. If he doesn't have low/no sperm,
3. If etc etc.

Bureaucrats seem to think women's private parts and reproductive systems are public property and that they have a right to demand they be inspected at their whim.

Dumbasses and douchebags. Fuck them.

[kdmorris]

5. What a stupid policy!

I did get a chuckle out of your 1,2,3.

I gave birth to my last daughter at home, with the help of a midwife. But what happens if you go into ultra-fast labor and then the baby is born at home. I guess that they they pack you off to the hospital where you need to prove that the baby just popped out?

What is the point of the policy? Was there an epidemic of women rushing off to get a birth certificate for newborn babies that they hadn't actually given birth to? Who knew that Canada had so many newborn babies lying around for women to claim?

[madmom]

6. I was born at home. My father and grandmother delivered me. By the time the

doc got there I was already bathed and dressed and sleeping in my mothers arms. I guess to them, I don't exist?

[LiberalFighter]

7. They need to determined who was responsible for making the requirement.

This is only required in Quebec but not the other provinces?

[glowing]

8. I think it has more to do with Maternity Benefits than the birth.

[lunasun]

9. another move to prove pregnancy is a disease in need of Dr$;.not natures way

[Fla_Democrat]

10. Huh, and here I thought this was a

thread about the whole Palin, Trig, mother/grandmother mess. :hide:









:smoke:

[formercia]

11. The French Bureaucracy

a marvelous example.

[jeff47]

14. Except Montreal is in Canada. (nt)

[demigoddess]

12. People, there are doctors, in all countries and all systems

who will use any excuse to get their female patients in such a position. I once had a psychiatrist who demanded to do a Pap test on me!!

[SwampG8r]

13. i swear you canadians are not very smoove with

the ladies