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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:28 PM
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5 things the media isn’t telling you about human activity and earthquakes
Source: Raw Story
By Nora Eisenberg

Shortly before midnight Mountain Time on August 23, the largest earthquake in Colorado in more than a century, with a magnitude of 5.3, sent tremors as far away as Kansas. Some twelve hours later, a magnitude 5.8 earthquake centered in Northern Virginia sent shock waves as far away as Toronto. The local damage in each event did not appear extensive, though structural effects, on bridges, tunnels, nuclear power plants and more are yet to be determined. Through the afternoon and evening of August 23rd, the national media uncovered the big story of the East Coast quake: where their colleagues posted in New York or Washington were and what they thought when they felt a bump, sway, rumble or funny feeling. But with no national correspondents already on site, the Colorado quake was left to the locals. But both quakes were profound, rippling with far-reaching lessons about our outdated and unsafe energy practices that we ignore at great peril.

1. Human activity can cause earthquakes. No less an authority than the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) asserts this. And they offer as an illustration a series of atypical Colorado quakes in the 1960s, resulting from the Army’s injection of waste fluid produced by its Rocky Mountain Arsenal chemical weapons plant northeast of Denver.

2. Seismic activity has been linked to the injection of waste water from the unconventional production of natural gas using hydraulic fracturing (also known as fracking). A southeastern New Mexico area that has been experiencing repeated earthquakes since the late 1990s are near the injection wells for oil production waste water, the New Mexico Tech Observatory has reported. In April 2011, in Arkansas, two natural gas wells were closed down until scientists can determine why over a thousand unexplained earthquakes occurred in areas near drilling sites and waste injection wells. Since the well’s closing, a supervisor at the Arkansas Geological Survey reports, incidence of earthquakes have declined dramatically, much as they did in Colorado fifty years ago.

. The petroleum industry is resistant to taking into account scientific and historical data. In late summer 2001, a swarm of earthquakes occurred near fracking waste water injection wells outside of Trinidad, Colorado, and USGS has not ruled out the wells as the cause. The epicenter of the August 22 Colorado quake was Trinidad, the capital of Las Animas County, the vastest county in Colorado and, for over a decade, the hotbed of state’s most extensive fracking operations, including the unconventional coalbed methane extraction. Las Animas is one of seven locations in the U.S. where the EPA announced that it will launch a study to determine the impacts of hydraulic fracturing, focusing on Las Animas' drinking water. But local groups say the physical stability of the region could be at risk.

More at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/24/5-things-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-human-activity-and-earthquakes/

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:34 PM
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1. 5 things the media isn’t telling you about human activity and banks
:think:
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:35 PM
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2. K&R.....Same thing with global warming.....If they continue to ignore the warnings
God help us all......Planet Earth will be gone...Greed drives people mad...
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:38 PM
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3. So which activity caused the 7.1 in Chile today?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:39 PM
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4. moon goddess
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:40 PM
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5. Makes as much sense as all the other claims made around here.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 12:36 PM
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30. Claims such as what?
Do you not believe that human activity can cause earthquakes? I'm sure you're far more informed on this matter than the USGS.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:43 PM
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6. When it's Chile, it's always the beans. nt
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:47 PM
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9. or the 7.0 in Peru an hour ago. nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:50 PM
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10. There were forestfires
before humans existed.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:56 PM
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11. Are you referring to the 7.0M earthquake in Northern Peru, which is on the "Ring of Fire,"
one of the most seismically active areas on the planet?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:19 AM
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22. Ruh roh
You used facts and presented a well reasoned argument that totally debunked them. They won't like that very much. I'm glad you brought those points up though. :hi:

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:42 PM
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14. No one said all earthquakes are caused by human activity. Chile
like California sets on the very edge of a plate.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:38 PM
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17. There is a big difference between "can cause" and "exclusively causes". NT
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:58 AM
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26. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
:D
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:01 AM
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27. Word. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:19 AM
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23. seismic activity
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:44 PM
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7. And there we have it. Proof positive
...that journalism + science = bad science. :eyes:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:45 PM
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8. I doubt very much that fracking could cause a 5.8
A more realistic scenario is the swarm of smaller (~3.0) quakes in Arkansas a while ago.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:57 PM
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12. Something to ponder: Draw a line directly between the CO quake of a couple days ago
and the VA quake of yesterday and look at what lies along it at about the halfway mark.

New Madrid.
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MrDiaz Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:07 PM
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13. Seriously
"August 23, the largest earthquake in Colorado in more than a century" what caused the one over a century ago??? Is there any natural disaster that isn't mankinds fault anymore, or is everything that happens now all our fault?
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:39 PM
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18. I missed the part of the article that said that all earthquakes are caused by man.
Or all natural disasters are caused by man. Could you kindly point that part out to me?
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MrDiaz Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:06 AM
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21. umm let's see
"5 things the media isn’t telling you about human activity and earthquakes"
"Human activity can cause earthquakes"
"resulting from the Army’s injection of waste fluid "
"Seismic activity has been linked to the injection of waste water from the unconventional production of natural gas using hydraulic fracturing (also known as fracking). "

Although it doesn't say ALL NATURAL DISASTERS are caused by humans, but it does imply it.

I could tell you that Rick Perry never said he wanted to seceed, but he did imply it.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:35 AM
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24. You've got some serious reading comprehension problems.
You can make the jump from "human activity can cause earthquakes" to "mankind causes all natural disasters." If that was the implication that you got, I'd seriously consider going back to school. Everything that article said is pretty much undeniable, but it said nothing even close to all natural disasters being man made.
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MrDiaz Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:53 AM
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25. well
Thank you very much.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:24 PM
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15. had no idea...
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:37 PM
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16. I have always thought there is something sinister going on
with all of the recent 'natural' disasters...We know the man-made causes for global warming/climate change and the severe weather - there is likely a man-made cause for all of the recent earth quakes...

I have also suspected a cause being all of the heavy explosives (i.e., bunker busters) used in the many conflicts the US is engaged in as well as the fracking.
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makokun Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:41 PM
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19. Ah yes...
the unending dance of human egocentricity continues.

Shut up Galileo! Mankind IS the center of the universe!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 10:38 AM
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28. The unending dance of denial also continues
to benefit the corporations who cause harm to the planet. The article says that human activity CAN cause earthquakes, NOT that ALL earthquakes are caused by human activity.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 12:34 PM
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29. +1
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:43 PM
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20. a little fun reading for the thread participants...
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