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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 04:54 AM Original message |
“I was wrong to oppose military intervention in Libya – wrong, wrong, wrong” |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. For a while, Respect politician Yvonne Ridley was singing from the same hymn sheet |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's really sad, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. It's racist, xenophobic, disgusting, vile. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. You seem to have a rosey, unrealistic picture of these rebels. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Nobody knows anybody's future intentions. So we should void all foreign relations then? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. They deserve their freedom, but let them fight for it. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. They did fight for it. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. We had no right to even intervene in Libya, and neither did the rest of the West. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. The UN gave the right, and NATO was asked to do it. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Thos are your biased beliefs. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Gaddafi did in fact have favorable oil deals with western europe, fyi. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I can't say I know all of their true intentions, but I can say I know the direction... |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Some people want to see a secularized Libya, but it doesn't mean that's |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. So rebels that chafed under forty years of autocratic rule will set up another autocratic system |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. This "nobody knows the rebels" is a stale meme |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The US's judgment on Middle East affairs has been absolutely terrible. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Accusations that someone is "bought" normally are accompanied by evidence |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. President Obama and NATO |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. Bachmann exhibits no such ability to reconsider her position. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. It seems... |
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SavWriter (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Oh Good, so we can expect more Progressives to support |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They're all neocons now |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Are you calling me a neocon? Really? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I'm calling people who support neocon policies neocons |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
47. The correct label in this case is neoliberal as opposed to liberal. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. I suppose the easiest and most convenient route to take is simply |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. It's not 'different' opinions, it's straight from the PNAC playbook |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Before R2P was adopted I recall many a liberal being upset over African atrocities. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. How do you prevent civilian deaths at the hands of Qadhaffi |
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SavWriter (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
57. I just got this link from a friend |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. the man was in power 40 years. what is this bullshit "prevent civilian deaths"? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. And more Americans dead in the future as well. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. “Thank you, we will never forget what you have done for us.” |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. 'They will greet us as liberators with flowers' - The US's opinion about Iraq in 2003. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. My quote said by a Libyan, yours by the US military - see the difference? |
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al bupp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Actually, I think it's quite the opposite in this case |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
6. Too bad she changed her mind. She was right the first time |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. If the draft consitution as written is adopted and upheld the oil will remain nationalized. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. We'll see how that plays out... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm just as skeptical, mind you, which is why I say "if" "adopted" "upheld." |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I really hope it works out as you say... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The main thing is going to be as the country needs to be repaired. |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Be honest please (and that includes not calling me a Qaddafi supporter). |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
18. K&R |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. Haven't we learned anything from Iraq? It's not the toppling that is hard, it's what comes after. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Humans don't learn, collectively speaking. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Juan Cole: Myth: The Libyan Revolution was a civil war. It was not. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Libya now needs boots on the ground By Richard Haass |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. You should try following the nes and what the TNC has said. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Lol like they used the billions in Iraqi oil right? It's a joke. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
43. I was not and still am not |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. +1000 |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. this article is from April 30 |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
46. Don't know the real motives behind all this, but Gaddafi really is an asshole. |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. I respect you coming clean but... |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
54. There are a lot of 'heartless s*ums' in the world ... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
55. I was against it then and am against it now. Enough with the gd wars. Why not fix America? |
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