GOP Rep Virginia Foxx: Loughner's Beliefs 'The Liberal Of Liberals'

[RamboLiberal]

Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) says political rhetoric doesn't really incite violent behavior at all -- but not before describing Arizona shooting suspect Jared Loughner as a "communist" and "the liberal of liberals."

"This guy appears to be a communist," Foxx told the Winston-Salem Journal. "His beliefs are the liberal of the liberals . There is no evidence whatsoever that this man was influenced by Sarah Palin or anybody in the Republican Party. This man is not a conservative; he's a fan of communism - that's the opposite of conservatism."

In ascribing affirmative political views to Loughner, Foxx is going farther than her colleagues. Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), by contrast, only claimed Loughner doesn't appear to be a Tea Party member.

"I don't think members of Congress incite that kind of rhetoric," Foxx added. "I don't think the things we say incite that kind of behavior. And I don't know that the things other people say incite it. I just think we have deranged individuals in this country and occasionally they do bad things."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/gop-rep-loughners-beliefs-the-liberals-of-liberals.php?ref=fpa

Foxx you're one of the ones holding the match!

[BellaLuna]

1. Has she ever been right about anything?

She's scary.

[valerief]

2. Foxx has a match in one hand and can of gasoline in the other.

I don't know how Redd ever put up with her.

[Gothmog]

3. Foxx is an idiot

This lady is an idiot.

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. Wow, what an immense embarrassment to NC she is...n/t

[gratuitous]

8. And they just re-elected her

Isn't that nice?

[appal_jack]

28. I voted against her.

I live in the 5th Congressional District of NC (currently represented by Virginia Foxx, alas). Please don't paint us with too broad a brush. Foxx routinely loses my county, but makes up for it in neighboring counties' votes.

Foxx's opponent this last election, Billy Kennedy, was an excellent candidate, but perhaps one who was too nice and gentlemanly to successfully unseat her. I donated a small amount to his campaign.

I am truly embarrassed and enraged by Foxx's comments today. I will again donate to her opponent in 2012.

On Edit - All DU'ers should counter the ridiculous arguments of Foxx & the rest of the extreme-right by noting that Loughner also identified the works of Ayn Rand as favorites, not to mention Mein Kampf . Hardly leftist source material.



-app

[gratuitous]

35. Wasn't meaning to call out the District

I rather meant that we get two more years of Foxx's demented mouthings. I've worn bike shorts that could outwit her.

[appal_jack]

40. no prob

Just wanted to emphasize that the crazy Foxx does not speak for all of us here.

:hi:

-app

[JuniperLea]

5. Idiots. It has zero to do with ideology....

We have deranged people looking for their 15 minutes, and to be a big man in the eyes of someone else. A liberal wouldn't choose a Democrat, Blue Dog or otherwise.

[Tansy_Gold]

20. Please clarify --

If it has nothing to do with ideology, why would a liberal not choose a Democrat?

It does appear that the alleged gunman chose Giffords as one of his targets. If his choice had nothing to do with ideology, why did he choose her? Or rather, if ideology has nothing to do with it, then couldn't he be a liberal and still choose a Democrat, a progressive, a socialist even?


TG, TT

[JuniperLea]

26. It could have been in reverse...

It could have been a liberal group pushing for emotions being whipped to a froth... it's the froth he's after, not the ideology. He is clearly not in his right mind. He's a loner. He's looking for acceptance. He's heard the rhetoric aimed at this woman, and he followed through. He smiled in his mugshot... he thinks he's a hero. Sane people don't do the follow through bit.

If it were a purely ideological situation with a liberal holding a gun and planning on using it, he'd draw a bead on a Republican.

[starroute]

27. It's not about froth -- it's about paranoia

Loughner may or may not be technically a paranoid schizophrenic -- but he was definitely responding to paranoid fantasies wherever he could find them.

The left doesn't feed those kinds of paranoid fantasies. To the extent that we're paranoid at all, it's pretty simple, mundane stuff -- like that the FBI is spying on anti-war activists. You have to go to the right for the kind of grandiose, over-arching conspiracy theories that someone like Loughner craves.

That's what I think the problem really is with Beck or Palin. It's not that they're inciting violence. It's that they're promoting a certain brand of paranoia that provides the energy and the validation for the truly deranged.

[denem]

6. Right on. Because Liberals want to kill Democrats.

[justiceischeap]

11. Well Giffords is a Blue Dog you see, so that's why the liberal of the liberals

would want her dead. :sarcasm:

[Supersedeas]

43. Right because liberals believe the government has no solutions...

[Rex]

7. The saddest thing is there are supposed progressives that believe

the same thing and will defend the GOPukers until they are blue in the face...why? You know why.

[Supersedeas]

45. According to the WSJ's discussion of his on-line posting, Laughner and Virginia Fox share a

hatred for the education system. And yet, Fox wants to associate him with those who do not share her disrespect for teachers.

[wtmusic]

9. Repeat it enough, and it will be true. Next, the "Liberal Liberal's Liberal."

z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z

[denem]

12. The Looney Left Liberal's Looney Left Liberal's Loon.

[movonne]

10. That is going to be the new thing .... he was a liberal and wants

to kill dems...Rush now Foxx...and the hate still comes out of their mouths and ass which is hard to tell the difference...

[MindandSoul]

13. This is the saddest part about this all tragedy (obviously after the

death and the wounding of so many innocent people!). . .the fact that the RIGHT just doesn't get it. . or that they are hypocritical enough to deny any responsibility for this.

Yes, the extreme Left is not totally innocent. . .but by far, the Right has been using the most inflammatory, violent comments and imagery!

No one denies that this man was insane. . .but obviously, not insane enough not to get clues from his environment!

And. . .it is a shame that political leaders are no more aware of what a Liberal, Conservative, and Libertarian is!

To me. . .a few "visits" to infowar and blog exchanges with a few Infowar addicts tells me that he was an Infowar fanatic. . .
-New World order
-Fear of gun control
-Fear of his "rights" being taken away
-Beliefs in "world currency" and conspiracy to control our minds
-hatred of the government "interference," including in educational settings
-intense focus on "the Constitution"

I would say he has at the very least drawn a lot of his paranoia from Alex Jones and his "Prison Planet!"

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

14. Where is her direct proof??!! She should just shut up until more is known

HOW DARE she come out saying things she has NO idea about!

JUST SHUT UP!

You're putting COMMUNISTS in peril of being hunted and injured.

WHY DONT YOU THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!????

WHY

WHY

WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN???!!

[kestrel91316]

15. I conosider myself a moderate Dem in many respects and find Giffords a bit too

moderate for my tastes. She used to be a Republican. She's a centrist, blue dog.

She's pro-choice. That's why Foxx considers her so ultra-left.

[glitch]

33. Pro-choice is the most likely reason she was targeted, IMO.

If she were a pro-choice republican she probably would have still been targeted.

As a father of a schizophrenic son said yesterday on Democracy Now, the violent rhetoric is like gasoline to the flame to a mind incapable of orderly analysis -- which is of course why the far right engage in it.

That they got a sick mind to act on their vitriol is exactly why they do it.

[marmar]

16. That woman is an Über Idiot

[progressoid]

17. She's right up there with King and Bachmann on the moran totem pole.

Oy.

[jpak]

18. Too bad no one here shares Foxx's vews!

:evilgrin:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

19. Rrrriiiiiiiight....

:eyes:

A governemnt-hating currency freak is a model leftie.

Yikes.

[Kurovski]

21. Then why wasn't the Commie happy with Gifford's socialist healthcare vote?

Foxx has always struck me as being the product of a notoriously southern vice.

[Fuzz]

22. She is one of those deranged individuals.

[unblock]

23. these people need to be called LIARS and FRAUDS

we can't namby-pamby about when the LIE and DECEIVE and talk about things as if they're true when they are not.

if we don't, we ENABLE them, we GRANT LEGITIMACY to them, and we BECOME COMPLICIT in their undeserved success, to our own detriment.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. He's got feet. You know who else had feet?

Karl Marx, that's who.

[spanone]

25. sad truth is that any dumbass can get elected to the house of representatives

ms foxx is a dumbass

[Cherchez la Femme]

29. And that's why he was registered Republican!

http://blog.politicalpsychic.net/2011/01/11/jared-loughner-was-a-republican-screen-shot-proof/republicanparty-loughner/

Yep. Makes perfect sense!




:sarcasm:

[Robbie88]

30. What about Loughner's obsession with the gold standard?

What the Ayn Rand novel which he lists as one of his favorite books? Neither of those are things which would suggest that Loughner is a "communist" or "the liberal of liberals."

Also, how the hell is one simultaneously "the liberal of liberals" and a communist? Communism and liberalism are not the same thing; they are two totally different and incompatible ideologies. The fact that a member of Congress does not understand this simple fact is just frightening...

[backscatter712]

31. Ah, the crazy cat lady of North Carolina... Never fails to deliver the batshit. n/t

[GoCubsGo]

34. I doubt she's a crazy cat lady.

Crazy...without a doubt, and in spades. But, no self-respecting cat would want anything to do with that nasty, old biddy.

[fascisthunter]

32. and How much of the media is going to challenge her statement?

the media is guilty for the political climate... when you twist the truth, distort, lie, tell half-truths, this is the shit that happens.

[Arkana]

36. Ginny Foxx needs her head examined.

[Tx4obama]

37. Her photo on TPM...

Has anyone else noticed that if someone were to photoshop her photo - take her hair, eyebrows, and glasses off - she'd look a lot like Jared Loughner. Same strange eyes !!!

[SaveAmerica]

38. Does anyone know if she has made statements inciting violence or other crazy stuff?

I'll put together a letter for the WSJ and will start doing research but if anyone already has some bookmarks with her past comments, that would be helpful. Thanks.

[RainDog]

39. I think she's one of those deranged individuals doing bad things n/t

[arbusto_baboso]

41. Since when is Communism the opposite of Conservatism?

Seems to me, the way both are practiced (not the ideals underpinning them) are pretty damned similar.

[ck4829]

42. In Tea Whiner world, everything that is not conservatism is communism

[arbusto_baboso]

44. The way tea whiners would have it, conservatism IS communism.

They just can't see it.