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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:36 PM
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To Those Who Want to Claim that Violent Political Rhetoric Has No Consequence
via wiki:

"Rwandan Prime Minister Jean Kambanda revealed in his testimony before the International Criminal Tribunal that the genocide was openly discussed in cabinet meetings and that "...one cabinet minister said she was personally in favor of getting rid of all Tutsi; without the Tutsi, she told ministers, all of Rwanda's problems would be over."<12> In addition to Kambanda, the genocide's organizers included Colonel Théoneste Bagosora, a retired army officer, and many top-ranking government officials and members of the army, such as General Augustin Bizimungu. On the local level, the genocide's planners included Burgomasters, or mayors, and members of the police."
Senator Phil Gramm: "We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."

Rep. James Hansen on Bill Clinton: Get rid of the guy. Impreach him, censure him, assassinate him."

I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,' and the people -- we the people -- are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country."~Michele Backmann

Don’t retreat. Instead — reload!~Sarah Palin

The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's death panel. —Sarah Palin

Baby Killer! —Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas), shouting at Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI)

He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity.''—Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), on President Obama's decision to fund international family planning organizations that support legal abortion, Sept. 26, 2009

I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country. —Rep. Virginia Foxx

I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out. ~Sharon Angle

Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms. —Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden


"Due to high rates of illiteracy at the time of the genocide, radio was an important way for the government to deliver messages to the public. Two radio stations key to inciting violence before and during the genocide were Radio Rwanda and Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLM). In March 1992, Radio Rwanda was first used in directly promoting the killing of Tutsi in Bugesera, south of the national capital Kigali. Radio Rwanda repeatedly broadcast a communiqué warning that Hutu in Bugesera would be attacked by Tutsi, a message used by local officials to convince Hutu that they needed to attack first. Led by soldiers, Hutu civilians and the Interahamwe attacked and killed hundreds of Tutsi.<16>

At the end of 1993, the RTLM's highly sensationalized reporting on the assassination of the Burundi president, a Hutu, was used to underline supposed Tutsi brutality. The RTLM falsely reported that the president had been tortured, including castration (in pre-colonial times, some Tutsi kings castrated defeated enemy rulers). There were 50,000 civilian deaths in Burundi in 1993.

From late October 1993, the RTLM repeatedly broadcast themes developed by the extremist written press, underlining the inherent differences between Hutu and Tutsi, the foreign origin of Tutsi, the disproportionate share of Tutsi wealth and power, and the horrors of past Tutsi rule. The RTLM also repeatedly stressed the need to be alert to Tutsi plots and possible attacks. It warned Hutu to prepare to "defend" themselves against the Tutsi.<16> After April 6, 1994, authorities used the RTLM and Radio Rwanda to spur and direct killings, specifically in areas where the killings were initially resisted. Both radio stations were used to incite and mobilize populations, followed by specific directions for carrying out the killings."<16>

Ann Coulter: "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too."

Bill O'Reilly: "...those clowns over at the liberal radio network, we could incarcerate them immediately. Will you have that done, please? Send over the FBI and just put them in chains."

Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

Barack Obama ... chose to use his name Barack for a reason -- to identify, not with America -- you don't take the name Barack to identify with America. You take the name Barack to identify with what? Your heritage? The heritage, maybe, of your father in Kenya, who is a radical? Is -- really? Searching for something to give him any kind of meaning, just as he was searching later in life for religion. —Glenn Beck

CBS golf analyst Feherty: "(I)f you gave any U.S. soldier a gun with two bullets in it ... there's a good chance that Nancy Pelosi would get shot twice, and Harry Reid and bin Laden would be strangled to death."

Rush Limbaugh: "I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for."




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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:38 PM
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1. Good one! K&R
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 04:44 PM by JustFiveMoreMinutes
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:42 PM
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2. K & R - Rwanda was
an example of how violent rhetoric has deadly consequences. How quickly we forget.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:53 PM
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3. Excellent connections.
Thank you for all the work it took to put this all together. K & R. Bookmarked.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 05:00 PM
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4. The right wing rhetoric stems from racism
just as it did in Rwanda.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 06:35 PM
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5. Yes. And the issue IS violence, not "harshness" or any other babble like that.
Calling someone an asshole is not the same as calling for them to be killed. This ought to be obvious.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 06:52 PM
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6. If, after an event like last weekend, your group has to spend countless hours
defending itself and justifying its behavior...and a media storm of discussion and analysis is dedicated to possible connections between your group and the violence....and if it is unclear if your group has crossed a line or not...and we're down to posting a dozen kinds of bullseyes and gunsights, then....

...then YOUR GROUP IS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, regardless if in the end 51% of the nation sides with you OR if attorneys general can't find criminal behavior OR if this shooter has no technical connection with your group's message. Clearly, your group is on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE and no amount of diversion or discussion of who said what or comparing of gunsight graphics can distance your group from the fundamental problem.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 07:55 PM
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7. Almost no one denies it - but in specific instances thankfully a few still stick to facts
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 07:55 PM by stray cat
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:37 PM
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8. Kick and Rec.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:40 PM
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9. I haven't seen anyone make that claim at all.nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:23 PM
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10. you can go read Jack Schafer at Slate.com
for one.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:47 PM
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11. "The nine
most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan, Patron Saint of Conservatives.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:16 PM
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12. A Message To Sarah Palin from Media Matters CEO David Brock
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:26 PM
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13. Good Thread! We thought the same thing. nt
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 01:33 PM
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14. I'd rec this if I could. ANyway, kick. nt
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