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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:39 PM
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Cheney role in arming Pakistan with The Bomb ignored by NPR today.
Dust rises up as mountains shake during underground test-firing of Pakistani nuclear weapon.



Listening to a piece on "The Takeaway" today about China getting a hold of the U.S. helicopter that went down in OBL raid. Around the 3:00 minute mark, Gordon Chang, an Asia expert from Forbes mag, said China gave Pakistan the technology they needed to create nuclear weapon.

Unfortunately, the kindly NPR interviewers allowed the ommission to slide without comment. The thing is: Mr. Chang was not even close. In addition to China, Dr. A.Q. Khan and Pakistan received financial support from BCCI, the corrupt Bank of Credit and Commerce International and many in the Reagan and Bush administrations, especially one Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney.

Of course, DU readers know that, thanks to DUer robertpaulsen.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:44 PM
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1. I listen to NPR every day
and it is getting harder to listen every day.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:02 PM
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3. It's heartbreaking. Wonder if anyone there has heard of Richard Barlow?
The man who knew too much

EXCERPT...

In the late 80s, in the course of tracking down smugglers of WMD components, Barlow uncovered reams of material that related to Pakistan. It was known the Islamic Republic had been covertly striving to acquire nuclear weapons since India's explosion of a device in 1974 and the prospect terrified the west - especially given the instability of a nation that had had three military coups in less than 30 years . Straddling deep ethnic, religious and political fault-lines, it was also a country regularly rocked by inter-communal violence. "Pakistan was the kind of place where technology could slip out of control," Barlow says.

He soon discovered, however, that senior officials in government were taking quite the opposite view: they were breaking US and international non-proliferation protocols to shelter Pakistan's ambitions and even sell it banned WMD technology. In the closing years of the cold war, Pakistan was considered to have great strategic importance. It provided Washington with a springboard into neighbouring Afghanistan - a route for passing US weapons and cash to the mujahideen, who were battling to oust the Soviet army that had invaded in 1979. Barlow says, "We had to buddy-up to regimes we didn't see eye-to-eye with, but I could not believe we would actually give Pakistan the bomb.

How could any US administration set such short-term gains against the long-term safety of the world?" Next he discovered that the Pentagon was preparing to sell Pakistan jet fighters that could be used to drop a nuclear bomb.

Barlow was relentless in exposing what he saw as US complicity, and in the end he was sacked and smeared as disloyal, mad, a drunk and a philanderer. If he had been listened to, many believe Pakistan might never have got its nuclear bomb; south Asia might not have been pitched into three near-nuclear conflagrations; and the nuclear weapons programmes of Iran, Libya and North Korea - which British and American intelligence now acknowledge were all secretly enabled by Pakistan - would never have got off the ground. "None of this need have happened," Robert Gallucci, special adviser on WMD to both Clinton and George W Bush, told us. "The vanquishing of Barlow and the erasing of his case kicked off a chain of events that led to all the nuclear-tinged stand-offs we face today. Pakistan is the number one threat to the world, and if it all goes off - a nuclear bomb in a US or European city- I'm sure we will find ourselves looking in Pakistan's direction."

CONTINUED...

sic semper whistleblowers...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:15 PM
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4. Everything related to news and news commentary smells on NPR.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:01 PM
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2. Attention new DUers!! There is a lot of documentation and information
that you need to understand just what we're up against. I urge you to dive into our archives...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:48 PM
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5. You need to give the LINK...so they can READ what we all know... Thanks!
:hug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 09:09 AM
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10. Can't find DU's research section at the moment. Perhaps these'll be of help...
Dick Tracy's World War II nemesis, Pruneface, was a NAZI posing as a loyal American.



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:57 PM
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6. And who will be the next Cheney?
So much ongoing criminality persists in this country thanks to Republican shenanigans and their proclivity for pardoning their own. When Ford pardoned Nixon back in 1974, it put a stop to a lot of the investigation into Watergate and the prosecution of the criminal activities. Some of the big fish such as John Mitchell were netted, but a number of smaller fish such as Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney slipped through the net.

When George H.W. Bush issued his pardons in Iran/contra in the dead of night on Christmas Eve 1992, he effectively decapitated the prosecution of such notables as Elliott Abrams, who would one day return to the corridors of power to gift the United States with his own peculiar brand of governance. In the late administration of Bush the Stupider, there were no doubt dozens of miscreants breathing a sigh of relief when the new president announced that he wasn't going to spend Department of Justice time and resources investigating or prosecuting any crimes of his predecessor. Surely some undersecretary for torture and bribery will re-surface to bedevil the country during the next Republican administration (if he hasn't been appointed already by Obama). In a slightly more just world this person would be spending the next quarter century or so behind bars.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 09:26 AM
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11. Poppy's Pardons Pardoned Himself...and CIA role in a helluvalot of evil.
For instance, this forgotten enchilada:

The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 06:37 PM
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7. I find these developments to be of great concern.
Without getting too :tinfoilhat: I've been paying close attention to the discrepancies in the official account of the OBL raid, wondering why this http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/14/us-pakistan-china-usa-idUSTRE77D2BT20110814">"previously unknown" helicopter crash from the OBL raid is getting an MSM spotlight. I don't think the long term strategy is so much about making Pakistan look bad as much as it is about demonizing China. We're witnessing a http://www.cnbc.com//id/44142438">turning point where the economic endgame is coming into focus. So it's extremely important for the MIC to have their real opponent properly identified and appropriately highlighted by MSM.

This is only the beginning, but we've been on top of this long before. Thanks for the link and for all the work you do to expose the truth, Octafish!
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 11:56 PM
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8. Whitewashing Reagan's dementia with the film on Charlie Wilson's war.
" But surely the most glaring omission in the film is the fateful trade-off accepted by President Ronald Reagan when he agreed not to complain about Pakistan’s efforts to acquire a nuclear weapons capability in exchange for Pakistani cooperation in helping the Afghan rebels.

On page 463 of his book, Crile characterizes this deal or understanding as “the dirty little secret of the Afghan war” –- General Zia al-Haq’s ability to extract not only “massive aid” from Washington but also to secure Reagan’s acquiescence in Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program via a congressional waiver of U.S. nonproliferation laws in December 1981."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/021010b.html


I don't think China had much to do with giving the bomb to Pakistan.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 12:01 AM
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9. AMERICAN JUDAS- wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross
"AMERICAN JUDAS- SELLING THE SECURITY OF AMERICA-30 PIECES OF SILVER"

Nice title, very fitting.

kick
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 09:26 AM
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12. Bushco, Cheney, BCCI.....all known about for years/decades on those "tin-foil-hat" websites.
Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 09:27 AM by WinkyDink
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 04:03 PM
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13. kick. . . . n/t
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