Michele Bachmann: Gay Families Are Not ‘Families’

[War Horse]

GREGORY: Can a gay couple who adopt children, in your mind, be considered a “family”?
BACHMANN: When it comes to marriage, and family, my opinion is that marriage is between a man and a woman. And I think that’s been my view —
GREGORY: So a gay couple with kids would not be considered a “family” to you?
BACHMANN: You know, all of these kind of questions really aren’t about what people are concerned about right now.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/15/295737/michele-bachmann-gay-families-not-families/

Bachmann (and her supporters) are simply on a different plane of existence from me on this one. A couple with a child/children is not a family?

[Brickbat]

1. Actually, she's right.

When she says "all of these kind of questions really aren’t about what people are concerned about right now," she's absolutely right. People are concerned about jobs and supporting their families, whether those families are "gay families" or not.

OMG, did I JUST SAY THAT?

[RKP5637]

14. Many people could care if gay couples are together, married, kids, etc. It's

asses such as Bachmann and the like that build it up as issues, and authoritarians, misguided power-seeker preachers and the like.

Exactly what "is" on peoples minds are jobs and supporting their families, and if this country even has a future.

The real needs/issues are neglected as the place sinks down the drain.

These republicans are such F'en fools and terrorists.

[MedicalAdmin]

28. You did ... you did say that.

[brooklynite]

33. If this isn't what people care about...

...then why does she think we need a Federal Marriage Amendment?

[Initech]

37. I see the flipside to this point.

And that is that you could see this as a whole new argument. It's not "gay people are threatening my marriage. My ability to hang onto my job is."

And with that, there's no way in hell that the republicans could get away with using the gay-marriage scapegoat in this election as they did in 2000 and 2004. We have a whole new set of problems to worry about.

[SusanaMontana41]

38. And it's always the GOP that tries to distract

by using gay marriage as a wedge. Except when it's inconvenient for the GOP, of course.

Put me on the side of all who are oppressed, because to have a boot on their throats means the oppressed frighten the beejeebers out of the powers that be.

[Behind the Aegis]

2. Children are irrelevant.

I have a partner of almost 10 years and we ARE a family! PERIOD!

[RKP5637]

15. 40 years here and we are a family too. I'm so fed up with these

hellions like Bachmann and the rest of the herd.

[SusanaMontana41]

43. Yes you are. Hope someday

we're advanced enough that your saying so will be obvious to more than just us.

[Occulus]

3. Well, AT LAST.

An issue on which Bachmann and Obama actually AGREE.

[Behind the Aegis]

4. ....

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

[Morning Dew]

7. and it's not even a compromise.

[Ignis]

32. This is the great thing about Democracy: We have a CHOICE!

...Between a "gays can't marry because Jesus told me so" candidate and the other one.

[awoke_in_2003]

35. "the other one"...

unfortunately, the other one believes marriage is between a man and a woman.

[Ignis]

45. Place tongue in cheek and re-read my post.

:hi:

[awoke_in_2003]

49. I placed tongue in cheek...

and re-read your post. I get it now :hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

44. No, Bachmann is for a federal marriage amendment, unlike Obama.

And Obama said he's "evolving" on the issue-- a wishy-washy argument, I know, but certainly different than Bachmann's stance.

[LynneSin]

5. I like to know this - If Michelle Bachmann is subservient to her husband

who is going to run the country if (god forbid) she's elected President?

I mean could you see her a-hole husband butting in telling her how to run the country when she was elected. And not the helpful way of making suggestions, like previous First Ladies have done but actually telling his wife how to do stuff.

:scared:

This is the man that told his wife she must be a tax lawyer and she was compelled to agree to him.

[Rex]

12. She said the other day that the word 'submissive' really doesn't

mean what everyone else thinks it means when it comes to her and hubby. IOW, she is full of shit.

[LynneSin]

18. So if her husband says "I want you to drop a bomb on North Korea" would she disobey him?

or just go ahead and make it happen

:scared:

[MedicalAdmin]

31. Not likely.

The fact it that she has already thought of this and already has this as a plan. She's an end of times dominionist. First theocracy and then armageddon. She wants to drop the bomb so the Jeebus can come back and save us all.

Feel better now?

[Rex]

47. Yeah hard to say really, if she says words but means other things

it is hard to know what she will do imo. Does she know where North Korea is on a map? We should give her and Rick Perry a geography test, in public. NCLB standards.

[Morning Dew]

13. The follow up that Gregory missed

was if submission equals respect, does Marcus submit to you?

[classof56]

36. Well, SOMEbody would have to tell her what to do.

Pretty sure she doesn't have a clue what the presidency's all about, and neither does Marcus. What worries me most is WHO would be calling the shots and the depths of despair into which our country would descend as a result. Sometimes I think it can't get much worse, but of course I know it could.

Tired Old Cynic

[gratuitous]

6. No, Ms. Bachmann, people aren't concerned about that right now

Which means you can probably get away with being as venal and petty as you possibly can for quite some time. And, even though it's not really a major concern for people, I have little doubt that you will at some point take the opportunity to indulge a little casual gay-bashing. After all, who's going to notice? Well, besides the people affected and those who love and support them. Which means nobody likely to come into contact with your bigoted self.

[Divine Discontent]

8. "really aren't what people are concerned about right now"

she's such a f*cking arse. she'd round every GLBTer up to go to ex-gay clinics, and strip everyone of their jobs, money, if she could. This woman is as blindly wrong and adamant about her beliefs as any person with power in the US. What a blight she is...




http://www.cafepress.com/barackobama12

[RKP5637]

17. She has the same mentality as the mobs of the witch trials. n/t

[fascisthunter]

9. worry about your own Marriage

since sexuality seems to be an obsession of yours, why not get the help you need instead of trying to destroy others' lives.

[RKP5637]

25. Exactly, whenever someone says gay marriage is going to affect their

straight marriage it's one huge WTF to me. IMO, then maybe they should just get divorced if their marriage is that frail. What incredibly weak minded ignorant people. It demonstrates to me how weak and frail their world is ...

[fascisthunter]

27. you nailed it... they project their own frailty on others

if gays are such an issue for their marriage, maybe they are with the wrong person.

[kestrel91316]

10. I, for one, am sick to death of all the fawning worship of "families".

What are we single individuals? Chopped liver?? Nobody ever makes like they give a rat's ass about US.

[Behind the Aegis]

19. You are almost in the same boat with us gays.

Though there aren't laws against single people, there are often disparities. When I was single, I can't tell you the number of times I was asked to work overtime or cover shifts "because I didn't have a family to go home to!" Child leave, maternity/paternity leave, and the like discriminate against child-free people, often single, though not always. Or how it is considered "dreadful" or somehow "sad" you are "alone." Trust me, I love my partner, but there are times I love being by myself!

[fascisthunter]

22. we aren't useful to them and their Elites

we don't give birth to worker bees so we are of no use.

[krabigirl]

39. ita, and I am a married mom..I don't like how the childfree or unmarried people are treated.

[dtexdem]

11. The only 'family' she accepts is a traditional nuclear family.

It presumably even omits a man and women who are not married, no matter whether they have children.

It seems to omit grandparents and grandchildren families; older siblings raising younger siblings; extended families raising children without the presents of either biological parent; fictive kin of all types.

In short, either Michelle has a very limited view of family, or in order to maintain her anti-LGBT biases, she will also exclude many heterosexual and/or nonsexual families.

And in so doing, she excludes the truly traditional families in the world and in our own history.

In short, this is, and she is, pathetic.

[lonestarnot]

16. Put a corndog in it twit!

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[onecent]

21. Lord Bachmann scares me!!!! n/t

[a la izquierda]

23. Well, disgusting cretin, you can tell that to my mom...

my sisters, mom's partner and our spouses. We're as tight a family as one can get, so she can stick that in her pipe and smoke it.
Fucking disgusting excuse for a human.

[bemildred]

24. What happened to your eyes? nt

[William769]

26. Heres two links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUXbB1qgqxc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dShLrhcBn8M

[hifiguy]

29. What a hateful, heinous waste of oxygen.

She continues to fill a much needed void. :grr:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

30. Corporations are people but gays aren't families

How soon before gays aren't even people?

[treestar]

34. Wonder why she resisted answering the question

[krabigirl]

40. this woman is a hateful idiot.

[devilgrrl]

41. Let's see those who whined "sexism" over the corndog photo defend her statement.

:popcorn:

[War Horse]

42. "Not about what people are concerned about right now"

If someone is living in their car, or hasn't eaten for three days, LGBT rights isn't exactly in the forefront of their minds (which is part of the problem right there). And anyone with a sense of dignity would respect that.

But, as has been pointed out above, it's obvious that this is a central issue for the far right. And THAT should be a cause for concern, IMO.

[w8liftinglady]

46. Michelle... tell it to these folks..

[backscatter712]

48. Did I mention how much I hate that subhuman psychopathic bitch?

She's a psychopath, therefore, I do not consider her to be actually human.