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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:22 PM
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So they are going after the safety net
and military retirement.

This is the classic pattern of empires in decline. Here is a happy thought for you... anybody care to ask how well paid the SOVIET troops were paid at the end? I ask because that is where we are going. When the wall fell, not that we knew it at the time, those border troops had not been paid for three months.

Oh and there is more, you think the military will have lifers in a situation like that? NCOs make the backbone of the military... most are lifers.

Yep, we are starting that final circling down the drain as an empire.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:37 PM
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1. and our military men and women pay the ultimate price
what these politicians are doing is disgusting...
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:09 PM
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3. +1000
It is indeed disgusting, but they won't hesitate to call them up to fight another bogus war.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:04 PM
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2. Oh, but haven't you heard? We've got Blackwater, ahem, Xe now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:36 PM
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5. Yep, we will learn just how loyal
mercs are to the mighty dollar, yuan, sterling, what have you.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:56 PM
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8. Face it, who are you going to pay?
A bunch of serfs who aren't going to do anything if they don't get paid because they're already persuaded that they have it too good, or heavily armed mercenaries who have a demonstrated capacity for shooting people they don't like?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:59 PM
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9. As long as they get paid
otherwise they will turn on you...


Or we will have merc companies meeting each other in the field, COs meeting under flag of truce, comparing TO&E and walking away with the "winner". Yep, this is based on what happened in Italy with the Condotieri, where this happened REGULARLY.

There is a reason Machiavelli wrote what he wrote about Mercs.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:13 PM
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10. Sounds like Afghanistan. nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:35 PM
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4. Can't return to slavery until the safety net is gone.
And slavery is the point of everything they've been doing for the last three decades.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:37 PM
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6. I got the sneaky that there will be a world wide revolt
before that point. It's already started.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:37 PM
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7. They had slavery
The most efficient kind, no less: wage slavery.

The fact that they aren't concerned about keeping the goose that laid the golden egg should worry people.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:21 PM
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11. Oh, I think wage slavery can get a lot worse than it already is
And that's their mission.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:22 PM
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12. They've BEEN going after the safety net
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 05:22 PM by Taverner
Since Father Coughlin to up and during Franklin Graham

They want us desperate, poor and willing to cut throats for a dollar

That's just how the Right Wing rolls...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:43 PM
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13. Oh much father back than that
but yeah I know. What they do not realize is that they are seeding a revolution... no, I am not kidding.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:48 PM
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14. I predict that all of us will have several oxen gored.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 06:31 PM
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15. And I predict some unrest will spread
:hi:

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 09:29 PM
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16. Especially with the poor oxen communities, I mean they have
already lost alot from the get go!
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