Irritated about the back on the campaign trail mode

[xiamiam]

Obama is good at campaigning. Great photo ops..beautiful smile..decent man who can deliver one helluva speech. He intends to raise one billion dollars for this campaign which pisses me off to begin with. There is no there there...I believed every word of the last campaign. I can't listen to one more speech filled with promises..I don't even like to look at the photo ops. All of this irritates me. I don't watch tv so its just coming from the internet for me and even that is too much.

I'm irritated ...not looking forward to any of this bs.

[scheming daemons]

1. Everyone screams that he needs to "use the bully pulpit"..then he does and they scream "just words!"

Make up your damn mind.

[xiamiam]

3. thats right..just words which ring hollow..wish it were not so..nt

[Harmony Blue]

4. The tough rhetoric on campaign does no good

as this type of rhetoric was needed with the debt ceiling "crisis".

[county worker]

5. Campaign speeches and the Bully pulpit are not comparable.

[scheming daemons]

10. Speaking in front of large groups of Americans is EXACTLY what the "bully pulpit" is

Geezus.

[county worker]

28. No it is not. A campaign speech is about getting elected. The bully pulpit is about persuading

people to take a certain action or to move in a certain direction.

What Obama is doing is campaigning, that's all.

Or I could say it this way. The bully pulpit has some sense of meaning and ownership and honesty.

[JuniperLea]

32. LOL!

This reminds me of my teabaggy associate that claims Obama wants to cut SS, Medicare, Police, Fire, and Teachers... and that is a sure sign we're heading down the road to socialism! LOL!

They parrot, but they don't understand their own squawking.

[Tesha]

18. Here's a clue for you:

He might, just *ONCE IN A GODDAMN WHILE*, say directly
that this is the fault of the Do-Nothing Republicans, that they
would rather take the country down than see a Democratic/
democratic government succeed at a major endeavor.

In other words, no mealy-mouthed "It's everybody's fault" and
no more "(un)shared sacrifice".

Every speech should lay the blame squarly where it belongs:
with the Republicans, his (alleged) political enemies.

Tesha

[scheming daemons]

20. He did that today.... and you and others call that "campaign mode"

Read his text for today and his answers at Q&A sessions. He called out the GOP all day today.

[Tesha]

33. You're putting words in my mouth; I haven't said Word One about "campaign mode". (NT)

[Ineeda]

2. So you'd rather

the soapbox ONLY populated by the crazies, huh?

[scheming daemons]

9. Exactly! "Why doesn't Obama counter GOP lies!?!"... followed by "Why is he giving speeches!?!"

Schizo DUers who aren't even remotely consistent in their criticisms.

[xiamiam]

13. that's silly..hes giving speeches because he is campaiging

words are cheap..actions define his first term..i'm not impressed

[scheming daemons]

17. You've ignored his positive actions for two years... then when he's saddled with a GOP congress...

... you get upset that he is attacking that congress.


Can't have it both ways.

[xiamiam]

12. my preference would be for the msm to not promote the crazies at all

or that the msm would have so little influence on the average voter that those crazies would be easily identified just by common sense

tbtb are running this show..all of it

[Wait Wut]

6. Bummer.

Maybe you should find a different hobby than politics. It sounds like it's completely ruining your attitude.

[Desertrose]

7. I'm sick that its ALWAYS about the "next election".

For all of 'em. Raising money & campaigning takes up the time these people should be using to actually do their job.

We need to get rid of private financing.

[Harmony Blue]

14. Exactly!

A Canadian poster posted their observation from the outside in a thread recently how our politicians don't spend enough time governing and ironing out policy!

[MineralMan]

15. Actually, the President mainly talked about immediate concerns

that should be taken up when Congress reconvenes. I watched the entire MN town hall thing. The only stuff about the election was his strong criticism of the attitudes of the GOP candidates-in-training regarding their absolute refusal to even consider revenue issues. Maybe we saw different speeches. I don't know.

[NNN0LHI]

8. Your concern is duly noted

[MineralMan]

11. Yes! Obama should get down from his bully pulpit, for sure.

He definitely needs to stop telling the truth about Republicans, too. :sarcasm:

[county worker]

16. You are not alone, no matter how many attack what you said.

I can't listen to him speak without having the same feeling of being lied to and manipulated as I did when the other gang ran things.

I hate the feeling that I am being lied to. At this late date, Obama can do about as much to create jobs as I can. We should have had a jobs bill well before the health care fight which did not come out like we were promised.

The middle class and the uninsured are worse off now than they were in 2008. Had we seen action along the lines of Obama's 2008 campaign speeches early on in 2009, we would still have both Houses of Congress and we would have found a way to limit the power of the right. As it is, we are about to see cuts in social programs, no help for the unemployed and no hope and change for the foreseeable future.

[scheming daemons]

19. What would you have him do?

Since you apparently are upset about him going on the road to call out the ones responsible for the economic problems.

[xiamiam]

22. lol..you are spinning like a top..hes out there to get votes for 2012

calling out the ones who are responsible for our economic problems is not high on his list

[scheming daemons]

23. It's what he's done on the bus tour so far....

[county worker]

25. I would have him do what he said he was going to do during the 2008 campaign.

Calling out those who caused the problem is not getting the problem taken care of. You and I don't need him to tell us who caused the problem, that's preaching to the choir.

We need to hear him support the people of Wisconsin. We need to hear him stand up for us the way the right stands up for the tea party. We need to hear him negotiate from strength.

We don't need to hear that we have to sacrifice and we don't need to hear that we have to work with the other side!

[scheming daemons]

26. We have a divided legislative branch... he can get absolutely NOTHING done without some GOP support

So... the options are thus

1. Try to find enough Republicans to work with so that you can accomplish something

or

2. Go into campaign mode and tear down the GOP as obstructionists.


He can't do what you want to be done without a compliant congress. So he has to literally join 'em or beat 'em. He tried joining 'em... didn't work... now he's trying to beat 'em... and this thread is complaining about that.

[county worker]

29. He could at least try!

That is such a weak position that it doesn't deserve much reply.

[xiamiam]

30. he squandered an opportunity..well, more than one opportunity

can't resurrect any of that..maybe..but he'd have to do a serious about face but i just dont expect it

this thread is not complaining about anything that he has said in the past few days..it is about the campaign mode..which is all talk and smiles and photo ops...

[xiamiam]

21. lol..you guys ganged up on me..some of you are on my thinking about ignore list

funny..but guess what, none of you can explain away no help for homeowners, continued and expanded wars, no accountability for wall street..geithner, summers...drones in pakistan and yemen...shared sacrifice from seniors and medicare recipients so we can give 50 billion more to the mic even if they didnt ask for it..

shall i go on or do you get my point?

[scheming daemons]

24. I get that you're upset with Obama.... but what he's done the past two days is what

...everyone has called on him to do. Take the fight to the GOP.


Put me on ignore if you want.... that's what people around here like to do when someone calls them on their bullshit.


For the record... not a single DUer is on my "ignore list"... I'm not afraid of opinions that differ from my own.

[xiamiam]

27. which part of campaign tour to you not get?

he is campaigning..the reason for the post in the first place..he's had enough time to lay the economic problem at the feet at those responsible..which is not really the republicans..but the bankers and ptb who own them..or how about admitting that 3 + wars is stupid and wasteful for millions upon millions but profitable for a handful..yep, he's had a lot of time to do that and hasn't ..and wont..not even on the campaign trail

i have several people on ignore..6 or 7..never until the past couple years..of those, 3 have been tombstoned

the others have tunnel vision which annoys me..i expect they will eventually be tombstoned as well

[JuniperLea]

31. I'm sorry, it appears you have both reading and hearing issues...

His speech did exactly what you are asking, and you were told this numerous times in this thread. But by all means beat the dead horse you rode in on.

I have so much concrete in my iggie it sags.

[spanone]

34. i'm glad he's out there kicking ass....and it's three fucking days...