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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 12:57 PM
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The Obama Stimulus Created More Jobs In 2010 Than Bush Did in 8 Years
Americans are some of the hardest working people in the world, and it is not just their work ethic that drives them to toil for a decent life, it is the conditions conservatives have imposed on them that make it difficult to survive from paycheck to paycheck. In the western world, Americans work longer hours for less pay and less time off than their counterparts in Europe and it leads to shorter lifespans and less contentment. The economic situation has made finding a job nearly impossible because businesses are less inclined to hire new employees when the public can ill-afford to buy their goods much less daily rations of food and even shelter. The Republican candidates seeking the nomination for president in 2012 have assailed President Obama for failing to provide jobs for Americans, but their assertions that they have the answers to put Americans back to work are fallacious at best and at worst, outright lies.

First, it is worth noting that President Obama and Democrats created more jobs in 2010 than George W. Bush did in his eight year reign of economic malfeasance. From Bush’s first month in office until December of 2009, the economy added 1 million jobs, but in 2010 alone the economy added at least 1.1 million jobs and though the numbers show improvement, there is still a long way to go to get 14.5 million more Americans gainfully employed. It is unfortunate, but if Republicans were not so bent on obstructing President Obama’s economic agenda the unemployment numbers would be much lower and the economy would be on a more solid foundation. Economists have outlined what measures to take to improve job creation, but because Republicans are ill-equipped to take advice from experts they are resorting to their tired canards of tax breaks for the wealthy’s corporations and deregulation of environmental protections.

When Republicans won the House in 2010, they promised to make jobs their highest priority but instead of job creation, they focused on procreation and assaulting women’s right to choose their own reproductive health. After 8 months, Republicans have still not made any effort to help create jobs and instead have obstructed the president and the Democratic determination to create an environment that is conducive to job creators. When Democrats attempted to eliminate tax breaks and incentives for corporations that outsource Americans’ jobs, Republicans obstructed and eventually blocked the job-creating legislation. Their job-killing agenda served two purposes; to protect their wealthy corporate donors and to portray the Obama Administration as ineffective. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce president made the rounds on news talk-shows to tout the benefits to corporations of moving American jobs to India, Korea, and China, and although near-slave labor may be good for big business, it is devastating Americans’ lives as well as the country for the lost tax revenue from working Americans and corporations that avoid paying taxes on foreign earnings.

The Republican meme that regulations and the corporate tax rate are hurting job creation plays well to conservatives and cognitively challenged Republican supporters, but they are outright lies that have been around since the Republicans’ man-turned-god, Ronald Reagan, was president. It is an oft-repeated statistic, but it bears repeating again that during the Clinton Administration, the tax rate for the richest 2% of Americans was 3% higher than it is now and funding for regulatory agencies like the EPA was increased leading to millions of jobs being created and an environment that was considerably less toxic. When President Clinton’s term was finished, he left a budget surplus that the Bush-Republicans promptly turned over to the wealthy and the economy began a devastating slide that continued until President Obama’s initiated a stimulus program that started the painfully slow economic recovery.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-gop-job-creation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politicus+USA+%29&utm_content=Google+Reader


Still not good enough but change his mind and congress and we can do better
HE'S Better than any republican........ but that's not saying much.......WE CAN AND HE CAN DO BETTER.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:32 PM
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1. This should made into a short effective ad and played in every
state in the USA.

The Republicans have repated it failed so much
that people now believe them.

By letting this occur we have cut off our own knees.

Right now, Economists, even some Wall Streeters,
know we need another stimulus to prevent a double
dip. That crowd surrounding Obama refuse to even
ask because they know the Republicans will be against
it.

They(WH) are being defeatists on this issue. Our side
is going to have to get out there and fight for every
little thing they get.

Anjyway, even the GOP candidates use Stimulus to say
Obama is a failure.

We need to get ads and some people trying to correct
this message.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:33 PM
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2. great headline and I aim to repeat it as often as possible or necessary
sick of the RWers whining about how ineffective the stimulus was. Made it enormously difficlut to continue asuccessful program.
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Southerner Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 02:08 PM
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3. Hmmm.
The politics USA article, to backup their point, links to an ABC news article that has only what Pelosi stated in a speech as their source of information. Is that the best we can do?

Months ago I was curious about these numbers myself and kicked around the Department of Labor website where they track payroll statistics. This Wall Street Journal used those same payroll numbers for this article:

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

Here's the chart from that article on net jobs created during presidential administrations:

George W. Bush 3.0 million
Bill Clinton 23.1 million
George H.W. Bush 2.5 million
Ronald Reagan 16.0 million
Jimmy Carter 10.5 million
Gerald Ford 1.8 million
Richard Nixon 9.4 million
Lyndon Johnson 11.9 million
John F. Kennedy 3.6 million
Dwight Eisenhower 3.5 million
Harry Truman 8.4 million


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 02:53 PM
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Southerner Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:05 PM
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5. Look for yourself
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

Where are the lies?

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:08 PM
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6. Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

Please stop posting RWing talking points and numbers, thanks. :hi:

GWB was the ONLY POTUS to have ZERO job creation for his first 4 years.

Pass THAT on!
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Southerner Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:20 PM
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7. Well OK
Your wikipedia link says Bush gained 2.1 million jobs in his term. That's twice as much as the premise of the original post here.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:28 PM
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9. Not at all, you just don't want to post ALL of what wiki says do ya?
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 03:29 PM by Rex
GWB - 8 years = 2.1mil
Obama - 3 years = 4.4mil

So Obama produced twice as many jobs in far less time then GWB and did so under dire economic situation.

What say you to that?
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Southerner Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 01:27 PM
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12. You are aware...
...just about anybody can register and edit wikipedia pages right? If you follow the link on the wikipedia page that is supposed to be the source of the information, you get to here:

http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/empsit_nr.htm#2010

Bureau of Labor Statistics. Same place the Wall Street Journal, myself, and a somebody posting after me got their numbers from. Go to that link, click on the appropriate months, and look for "total employed" or "total private". You'll find the numbers for Bush and Obama have been cooked on the wikipedia page.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:26 PM
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8. So why are 25+ million Americans unemployed?
:shrug:
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:28 PM
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10. For the life of me, why don't Democrats shout this from the rooftops. Tax cuts DO NOT create jobs,
government spending does. We have the proof. Have at it!
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econoclast Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:41 PM
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11. What to make of these numbers?
I am always suspicious of the the "Jobs Created" data. They are too much massaged for my taste. Personally, I like to look at the actual "How many people have a job" numbers given by the BLS Civilian Employment Statistics.
These are the Employment numbers used to calculate the unemployment rate. They are kind'a wild.
What do you make of this…

Link - http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

Series Id:           LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status:  Employed
Type of data:        Number in thousands
Age:                 16 years and over


Jan 2001 Bush 1st inaugral 137,778
Jan 2005 Bush 2nd inaugral 140,245
Jan 2009 Obama inaugral 142,201
July 2011 most current data 139,296
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