Would you trade Barack Obama for Rick W. Perry ?

[kentuck]

If you could get a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate?

What would be the positives and the negatives?

Why?

[WinkyDink]

1. I wouldn't trade Satan for Rick Perry.

[Ishoutandscream2]

27. Bingo. You don't want this man anywhere near Washington

We'll put up with him here a few more years in Texas. I wouldn't unleash Goodhair on my worst enemy.

[scheming daemons]

2. politics doesnt work like that.. if Perry wins, it means large GOP turnout... which

Means GOP controls everything.

[kentuck]

5. Probably true.

But that wasn't the question.

[vi5]

3. It depends

Could we get a fillibuster proof majority in the senate? If so then yes, I probably would as long as we got the house as well.

[NightWatcher]

4. I kinda miss good ol gridlock. Things didn't get fucked or fixed too fast

We just hovered around a net zero. I'd rather the pendulum not move then move to the right as fast as lately.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. We have gridlock right NOW.

I'm not sure I understand your post. :shrug:

[madokie]

6. Not just a no

but a hell no. Obama isn't as bad as some here would like the rest of us believe. No one and that includes you Kentuck or me are perfect. You must not forget that. You want a fucking republicon in the white house then what are you doing here

[kentuck]

9. I would say...

that a Democratic House and Senate would be less likely to let a Republican cut Social Security and Medicare than they would a Democrat. When it gets to that point, I have to re-think my position. That is the reality.

[madokie]

11. That is your version of reality

Obama put ss and medicare on the table to prove a point but that point was lost on so many here with you included, seems to me like.
Peace
have a good day hating on Obama, will ya'

[kentuck]

12. Obama has already cut SS...

But, for the record, I would not trade anyone for a Rick Perry. Just trying to get people to think of the possible scenarios we may be looking at in the next election. Obama is trying very hard to get more tax cuts and the Republicans are blocking him. I don't hate him. I think he is terribly misguided. Just my opinion.

[scheming daemons]

14. SS was not cut... not one dime... in debt deal

[kentuck]

18. Nobody said it was cut in debt deal...

You said that. The COLA has not been included for going on 3 years. Obama cut the FICA taxes that go into the SS fund. Does anyone really think that will be replaced with general revenue? That was a cut in SS. Spin it any way you like.

[madokie]

My apologies if I've been mis-guided by your posts here lately

From reading the DU since he became President you'd think this was a republicon website.

[Bluebear]

16. You'd think since the election we had a republicon President

Is that any better than your ridiculous post?

[Kahuna]

23. Never in a million years would a repub president have extended unemployment

for 99 weeks. Are you fuckin' kidding me? I've been hit hard by every recession during my 57 years, and NEVER have I been given 99 weeks of unemployment. You all cry about the 99ers. I'm one of them. But I am appreciative that I got the 99 weeks and do realize that I cannot expect to receive unemployment benefits indefinately.

[madokie]

33. The anti Obama bashers bullshit holds no water when one checks for leaks

They are here to bash and are getting away with it. I'm spending way less time here than I'd like and its due to the changes in our used to be Democratic site. Lately this has been free republic LITE and it sucks.

[CJCRANE]

7. Did you like the last two years of the Bush era? nt

[scheming daemons]

8. how did you like it is 2007-08 when you had that exact situation?

If you say things were better in 08 than now, you're out of your mind.

[kentuck]

10. So...

are you saying a Democratic majority in the House and Senate are worthless??

[scheming daemons]

13. no... but holding the white house is better

Ranked this way

1. Dem pres, dem congress
2. Dem pres, GOP congress
3. GOP pres, dem congress
4. GOP pres, GOP congress

[kentuck]

20. That's the way it is supposed to work...

This WH and Senate seems to be a little different, don't you think?

[scheming daemons]

22. This White House is amazingly similar to the Clinton WH after 1995

If DU existed then, the uproars over the Welfare Reform bill that Clinton signed would have been enormous.


...as well as the howling at the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagle.


...as well as the screaming about the bombing of Kosovo.


...as well as the signing of DADT and DOMA.




Clinton post Gingrich revolution governed in a very similar way to Obama post Tea Party victory.

[Renew Deal]

15. Hell no

The president can still do a lot of damage and there are supreme court picks. Perry would try to turn this place into a theocracy.

[leftynyc]

17. Hell no

More Scalia's on the court? No fucking way and frankly I think the question is kinda stupid and short sighted.

[kentuck]

19. You think it is stupid?

I think, at the present pace, it is a very likely scenario. Kinda scary, to be honest. Would the people vote for a George W Bush clone so soon after his disastrous presidency? Damn right, they would!

[leftynyc]

29. I said kinda stupid

and I stick by that - asking Dem activists whether they would want a pub to be picking federal/supreme court nominees is kinda stupid. Could it happen? Sure, of course. Would anyone calling themelves a Democrat wish it - hell no.

[Kahuna]

21. Hell to the NO! But many are still of the mind that we have to destroy

the country so that Americans will finally embrace the "progressive" agenda (i.e., full blown socialism). Many didn't get enough of the bushco years and the resulting disaster. Go figure.

[kstewart33]

24. So tired of the Obama hate here.

Makes no sense at all.

[catbyte]

25. Are you serious?!?

[Erose999]

28. Both are pretty worthless. Obama has more scrap value, but you'd have to melt him down and

re-temper him and forge him into something more useful before there'd be any real value...

[emulatorloo]

31. Yes, Obama and Rick Perry are just the same

[sinkingfeeling]

30. No, I'd rather shoot myself.

[BlueMTexpat]

32. Double - nay triple "Hell NO!"

What on earth have you been smoking?

[sfpcjock]

34. No because,

Perry would appoint Yosemite Sam to the Supreme Court (twice), and that would be um... bad. :scared:

[a la izquierda]

35. As I said in another thread...

I'd vote for the ham sandwich over any Republican candidate, and I'm a vegan.
So yes, I'll vote for President Obama. I've been vacillating from sitting out to voting, but I know I'll vote for him if I'm in a swing state.

[Le Taz Hot]

36. Now it's Presiddent Perry!!11!!1?

Last week it was President Bachman!!11!!1 and the week before it was President Palin!!11!!1

[mmonk]

37. No but Democrats would fight for a change except on judicial nominations

(gangs of insert number).

[Shagbark Hickory]

38. Maybe, quite possibly.

It would depend on the makeup of the majorities. If it's just barely a majority and 10 percent is bluedorks, then definitely not.

If it's a huge majority made up of liberal (and I don't mean the rush limbaugh definition of that word) democrats then I think they have the potential to get more done.

And whos to say Perry won't go more to the left just as Obama went more to the right once in office?