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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:35 AM
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NBC’s David Gregory equates Perry’s secession talk to Obama’s push for national health care
http://www.americablog.com/2011/08/nbcs-david-gregory-equates-perrys.html

Sunday, August 14, 2011
NBC’s David Gregory equates Perry’s secession talk to Obama’s push for national health care
by Joe Sudbay


Yesterday, we saw a stunning example of how the traditional media types equate the views of Democrats and Republicans, even when the GOP idea is so extreme it would undermine the stability of the United States. NBC's David Gregory equated Rick Perry's treasonous call for secession with Obama's effort to provide national health care. Perry first talked secession back in April of 2009. Gregory seems to think they're equally extreme. This conversation occurred yesterday on MSNBC following the announcements that Michele Bachmann won the Ames Straw Poll and Rick Perry had entered the race. It's painful enough to watch Chuck Todd and David Gregory. But, this analysis from Gregory really shows how warped the media is:

Chuck Todd: Perry-Obama would be a picture of sharp contrasts.

David Gregory: You know, Perry talked about potentially seceding from the union. You think that's extreme. Well people on the other side think that introducing health care reform for the whole country is akin to European Socialism.


WTF? Pushing secession somehow equals national health care? No. Not even close. But, that's the way our elite pundits think. They create an equivalency between Democrats and Republicans, as if the right wing's extremism is somehow, well, normal. It's not. Yet, Gregory legitimized Perry's secession talk.


Video at the link. That particular exchange between Todd and Gregory starts at the 4:30 mark.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:37 AM
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1. I stopped watching that show years ago, due to the 'corporate stooges'
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:37 AM
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2. David Gregory is a pimple on the ass of logic.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:41 AM
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3. An ugly boil! nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:06 PM
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16. a carbunkle! nt
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:42 AM
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4. Im used to seeing this sort of thing on CNN
But not on NBC
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:43 AM
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5. Gregory's brains bang around in his skull like
bbs in a box car.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:12 PM
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22. LOL
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:44 AM
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6. "even when the GOP idea is so extreme it would undermine the stability of the US"
This is what needs to be discussed, frantically and constantly on the news!!

The GOP would and will destroy the USA, isn't that the point we need to be discussing as Americans??
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:44 AM
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7. He says THEY think health care reform was socialism (or communism,
take your pick :7). I don't think he was saying they're equal, but rather making a statement about the RW. That what one side thinks is okay, the other side thinks is treasonous/socialistic.

I don't like Gregory at all, but I interpret this entirely differently than you.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:47 AM
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9. ...and dying in the fucking street due to lack of care is American ?
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 11:48 AM by RagAss
These people need Thorazine very badly.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:04 PM
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14. I know! They're so fucking scary. Make that Thorazine an IV drip. nt
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:46 AM
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8. Obama is calling for European-style socialism?
As if that would be a bad thing-unlike attempting to secede from the country. Well, unless somebody just wants their Jesus-given right to be uninsured and have taxpayers pick up their emergency room care until they qualify for national government run healthcare for the elderly. :eyes:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:12 PM
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17. When he does, let me know so I can send him a campaign contribution. (n/t)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:47 AM
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10. The "idea" of secession dates at least 150 years. National Healthcare 110.
but then we have been working for national healthcare all that time. People like Perry only bring up secession when they are stoking the racists.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:49 AM
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11. Has anyone said David Gregory is an idiot? Or is it just obvious?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:04 PM
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13. +1
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:50 AM
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12. The MSM exist to sell products and services. Period. End of Story. So
the question is, how to get viewers to watch the commercials selling products and services. Well, if the MSM can make it sound like Repukes are no crazier than Dems, then no viewer will get offended and stop watching. More viewers = more ad dollars.

So the best way to counter the MSM is not to rail against their proclivity for false equivalences (as is the case here). The best way to counter the MSM is to stop watching and get others to stop watching too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:06 PM
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:15 PM
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18. They may be roughly equal in Partisan Freakout Units but that's all.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:34 PM
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19. NEVER FORGET:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:42 PM
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20. That doesn't even make sense.
Hang it up, Gregory!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:02 PM
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21. of course he does....that's his job
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larwdem Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:22 PM
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23. wtf
gregory should be fired
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