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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:35 PM Original message |
California Democratic Party May Dump Its Progressive Caucus for Proposing a Primary Chlnge to Obama |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Now *there's* a typical DLC way of dealing with questions and issues raised! |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's Cowardice |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
241. No, it's practical party politics. A primary challenge will help the Rethugs. |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #241 |
243. Seems hard to imagine a primary helping the GOP nearly as much as Obama does all on his own. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #243 |
247. History shows that primary challenges weaken the incumbent |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #247 |
269. Whatever the destination.... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
244. +100 |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
255. No, it's political suicide for the CDP |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
259. That's not cowardice, it's progressiveness |
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True Blue Democrat (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Then the Progressive Caucus should take the preemptive strike and declare the CDP |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. +1000. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
159. Well said. And welcome to DU! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
211. Geez, to think |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
222. Both Obama and Jerry Brown use the same tactic: they use platitudes that |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
226. agreed. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'll bet Republicans wish they could do that to their Teabagger Caucus. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. equating Progressives with Teabaggers? Wow! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Oh yes. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. It's the blue dog, third way, DLC vision for the Democratic Party. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. No, I'm equating the delusional purists in the Democratic Party with those in the GOP |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Thanks |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #64 |
87. You can't deny that the Progressive Caucus is right on all the bullet points, though. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. The "third wayers" get to call themselves "liberals" all the while |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
184. There is NOTHING Liberal about any of them |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #87 |
104. Of course not, the truth has made 'centrist/moderates' bitter pill swallowers. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #104 |
167. Whose "truth" are you referring to??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
281. Deleted message |
MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Well as long as everyone agrees with you then, I guess that's all that matters. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #89 |
183. and expunging progressives really is anti-democracy |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
97. Do you see labor in this way? Do you agree with the WH that WI labor struggles are a"distraction" ? |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #64 |
99. Let's get this clear. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #99 |
173. I agree..nt |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
233. Well said |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #64 |
106. If you're ok with drone bombers in Afghnanistan(or even still fighting there at all) |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
170. Don't shout it, SHOW it...Refute the Progressive Caucus |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #64 |
172. Like these delusional purists? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #64 |
197. The delusional purists in the party are those who want to shut down |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
208. "those idiots in CA" .... thanks for shedding so much light on who we are... here in California.n/t |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
216. What in their bullet points that define their reasons for their decision to you disagree with? |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
219. +1 - The stakes are too high for purity tests |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
231. What do you like about Obama's government? |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
245. Well at least your honest |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #245 |
260. President Obama's base = huge majority of Democratic base |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #260 |
277. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #277 |
282. "Obama is a conservative republican." Is that why Congressional Republicans always support him? |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #260 |
294. I'm not sure why |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
258. Deleted message |
LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
287. I assume you're using the term "liberal" in the economic sense?... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
78. They sure sound like it when they propose to challenge Obama |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #78 |
185. by this logic....Obama has proposed many things....without doing them |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #185 |
206. Those undone things aren't spoken of in such a way that |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #206 |
212. "weaken confidence in what is done" ??? but nothing has been done; no promises kept.... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #212 |
218. That's not true. n/t |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
157. I wish they were equal to the Tea Party in influence. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #157 |
191. Then recruit more progressive voters |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #191 |
221. We have progressive voters, what we need is progressive candidates |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #221 |
239. Kucinich and Gravel both ran in 2008. What were these progressives waiting for? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #239 |
249. It takes a LOT of money to run plus favorable media |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
237. Progressives? no. These guys? Yes |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
248. Well they're both thorns in the Big Boys' sides, although the baggers |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. I stand with the Progressive Caucus. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. + 1 nt |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Good for you! n/t |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. I do too |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
124. I'm a member of the Progressive Caucus |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #124 |
250. Why? Not interested in arguing, just sincerely interested in |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
142. +1 |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
165. I didn't leave the democratic party |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #165 |
187. +1000 |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #165 |
223. Sad to say, that remark pretty much |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #165 |
242. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
213. +1 n/t |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. Recommended, even though it didn't show. Yet. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. K and Rec'd back to zero. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. mine too - the unreccers are out in force. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. sounds like something a conservative party would do. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Conservatives are smart enough to know it's a bad idea |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. They aren't smart, just well disciplined... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. 'Purity'? That overused word thought up by some DLC think tank |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
166. Okay |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #166 |
217. yes, but my question was about the principles expressed by the |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #217 |
225. I am a liberal Democrat |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #225 |
229. When candidates abandon those principles, and do not believe |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
90. Obama can't BE a strong candidate in 2012. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
171. Let me guess |
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Bluesbreaker (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
121. Were you asleep during the GOP primaries? |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #121 |
161. You're dreaming |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #161 |
293. They do - the Tea Party, who are actual people (perhaps not) like the rest of us |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
162. A bad idea, really? The Tea Party caucus of the Republican Party |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #162 |
169. Right |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. How undemocratic of them. K&R |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. k & r |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm sure that the GOP is enjoying all of this unnecessary infighting nt |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. Yeah...you know they are... |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
103. Popular? With whom? |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:57 AM Response to Reply #103 |
127. I'm voting for Obama. I'm certain of it. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #127 |
155. Well good for you. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #127 |
232. The California Democratic Party is not as much about Obama as about |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #232 |
279. Thank you for that obviously well informed clarification |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #232 |
288. In fairness to Bustamante, he was Davis' Lt. Governor... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. But no one I have ever talked to can explain the deal where |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #103 |
168. He popular with liberal Democrats. n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #168 |
200. "He popular"? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #200 |
204. He is popular with liberal Democrats. n/t |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #204 |
280. Actually, he's not. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
146. We? |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Bingo. This type of infighting wont help usher in any changes other than getting someone like Palin |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #61 |
92. It couldn't be progressive to unite behind Obama right now |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #92 |
113. Actually it could still be progressive |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Even if he has limitations on power, he could still have used the bully pulpit |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Perhaps thats because he is letting the republicans dig their own graves |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. We tried "letting the Republicans dig their own grave" |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:07 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. The problem is timing, if its not done well it wont work |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:31 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Of course we need to be on guard about dirty tricks |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
266. You are forgetting one key thing though.......we didnt have the internet |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:56 AM Response to Reply #61 |
117. I'm getting sick of hearing this tripe! |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:14 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Areyou refering to the idea he tossed around to that reporter when asked |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #120 |
164. It eventually would |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #164 |
265. So your telling me a person who is worth say 40 - 60 million is so hard up that |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #265 |
285. You can ask that after the tax debate we have just had in this country? |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:45 AM Response to Reply #61 |
143. +1 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
110. They'd be enjoying it more if we were just to concede Obama's renomination by acclimation |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
149. Voting and participation are matters of conscience. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Silencing all progressives, seems to be the new "democratic" way |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. DU was just the canary in the coal mine |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. They should break off of the Democratic party and form their own party. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Let's just call a spade a spade. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
137. I think it is subtle racism. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:20 AM Response to Reply #137 |
151. Wonder why they voted for him in 2008 if they were racist? |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #137 |
178. Playing the race card? |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #137 |
186. Sickening |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #186 |
235. I totally agree, but a very typical response. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #137 |
196. So you're saying progressives are extremists for trying to legalize pot... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
175. Me too. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. Let's form a new party around the progressive caucus |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Great idea ... !!! Let's see how many non-CORPORATE Democrats would follow -- !!! |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
71. Wouldnt that violate the forum rules? You know the part where it says its a violation to |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
128. Sounds like a great idea for a new website too. |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. I stand with the progressive caucus. Perhaps they should free themselves from DLC shackles... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. knr nt |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. A primary challenge which helps the GOP is not progressive. nt |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. A primary challenge would help the Democratic Party |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. that's ridiculous hyperbole |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Your tactic of blaming the messenger won't disguise this |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
73. Actually hes been more moderate rather than anything. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #73 |
111. What chance is there of dealing with those things WITHOUT a primary challenge? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
180. That's ridiculous hyperbole. |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
132. Which is, of course, why |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
240. No, it would reduce Obama's chances against the Rethug. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. That's what happens when the OFA takes over the DNC. nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm surprised they didn't call the Progressive Caucus racist while they were at it. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. it includes blacks who were for this |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
102. They'll be calling anti-Obama black progressives "self-loathing" fairly soon now. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Wow. You're on a roll lately, aren't you? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. Having attended more than one local meeting |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. Why are they so mad at our new way of life? |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. We gave the government enhanced powers? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. So much for the "big tent" ... aaah.... the big CORPORATE tent.....? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. K&R another blatant kick in the teeth to progressives |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. That's it. We need a Progressive Party. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. k&r |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Orange County has gotten a lot bluer recently... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. It is of course, relative, but I have to agree. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
214. that's gratifying to hear! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. Do it! Then maybe someone will actually see the need |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. Eugene McCarthy's Heir: Who Has The Courage To Challenge Obama In The Party? |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
82. If he thinks it should be done, then why doesn't he get off of his ass and do it!!! |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #82 |
126. Unfortunately Sen. Eugene McCarthy died in 2005 at 89, thus we must find his heir! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #126 |
134. the image of a Democratic president as "king of the party" is truly disturbing. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #134 |
230. Those who challenge a Dem president from the left have been killed or jailed. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #230 |
275. Yeah, you're right. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:08 AM Response to Reply #126 |
140. Howard Dean isn't going to run, and Feingold won't either. They both said so. |
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The Green Manalishi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #140 |
271. Playing with matches |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
41. Dump the Third Way/DLC/"New" Democrats: |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. That would be the CA where Obama lost the 08 Primary |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
45. WTF? Are the DNC and California Democratic Party suicidal or maybe un-democratic? |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. Maybe they saw the flaw in this reasoning: |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. It certainly will 'shake out that way'. These principles outlined by |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. Fine, if our voices won't be heard, |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. The CDP has been trying to remove many of their caucuses |
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jimmyflint (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
49. Get back in line, learn to like the rich and their wars! n/t |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. How many millions of Progressives are there? Is it a smart move to push them out |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Maybe this will help. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #67 |
158. Thank you Rahm. May I have another. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #158 |
188. thank you Rahm? choosing Rahm Emanuel was an early clue: Corporate Raider Rahm: |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #188 |
195. I merely referred to Rahm's noted statement about liberals (n/t) |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
264. By all means, keep punching that hippie |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #264 |
272. Nope. AFAIC "that hippie" can make all the noise she wants. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #272 |
274. Damn straight |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. If they do I dump the Democratic Party in favor of the Progressive Caucus. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. You're not alone. That's my decision also. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. Good. Dump 'em. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
53. I'm with the California Progressive Caucus, |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. And they call US purists and purgers. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
201. "Centrism" IS a ... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #201 |
278. +1 |
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haydukelives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. remember |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. So how are we going to end Wall Street/Corporate control of the Democratic Party and take it over? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
283. Well, voting for the "lesser of two evils" hasn't worked. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
68. Without the left the party is only in it for the power. Just like New Labour in the UK. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
72. K&R |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. This is just what the corporatists want, and we should all oppose it, even if you love Obama. |
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green917 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:12 AM Response to Reply #74 |
119. +1,000,000,000 |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
75. I support ditching the caucus; no fucking around with the rest of the Democratic Party |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. P.S. It wouldn't be so obvious that this was a symbolic & futile tantrum if |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
88. The "Dump Johnson" movement existed for two years before it had a candidate |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. And how did that work out for democrats? I back the CalDem Party. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #95 |
105. It would have worked out if LBJ had done the decent thing and got the hell out of the way |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
224. And of course if Robert Kennedy had not been killed! n/t |
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yarn_chick (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #95 |
192. I support the actual Democrats. That would be the Progressive caucus in this case. n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Surprise! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
133. So they should have to settle for being nothing but irrelevant voices in the crowd? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:54 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. No, he wants progressives out of the party as stated. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:01 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. You'd think that a guy who's stated position is that, if progressives have problems |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #139 |
163. Without a candidate, their move does nothing but destroy confidence. n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #136 |
160. I said no such thing until they did this particular thing. n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #160 |
246. Exactly. But you said it now. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #246 |
268. Right, yes I did. n/t |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
177. I one the other hand support ditching the DINO, DLC, Blue Dog, New Democrats |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #177 |
194. Yet when have they ever supported a primary challenge without so much as |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #194 |
199. The DLC New Democrats sprung up in the 80's |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #199 |
203. In any race. Can you find one? n/t |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
76. How to stop this: Email the Chair & Officers! No more donations to the party from us if this occurs! |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Apparently the "big tent" we keep hearing about |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
81. So, how do all the people saying that we should |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Here is how to respond: |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
83. My letter to John Burton, Chair, CA Democratic Party: |
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Gin Blossom (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:35 AM Response to Reply #83 |
123. Great letter - good job. nt |
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oldlib (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
252. I support a Primary challenge. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
86. Deleted message |
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
94. Get back to me when they provide an actual challenger worth their salt. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Or assisting republicans. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #96 |
109. Deleted message |
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. Not really. It's mediocre at best. Self-marginalization. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #112 |
135. It's marginalization to support Obama's renomination |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:22 AM Response to Reply #135 |
141. Incorrect. It's marginalizing to completely throw a good deal of his constituants under the bus... |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
98. Would it have been possible to get the recertification before passing the resolution? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
100. Any questions as to why I resigned |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
101. Unfortunately, this little game the Democratic Party is playing |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
108. +1000 |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
125. I know I will be flamed but how is this any different than |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:01 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. I won't flame you, but I'll offer a response |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. I'm sorry but I don't think we will come to an agreement about this |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:41 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Fine. But at least stop saying this is about "egotism" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #131 |
145. I think we can take that as a "no!" |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:10 AM Response to Reply #131 |
150. It is pure ego I won't back down from that because I don't |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #150 |
193. I meant no snark. I simply asked you to avoid taking the discussion |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #125 |
234. Progressives are the conscience of the Party. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
138. President Obama has a primary challenger. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #138 |
147. OK...he still doestn't have a sane primary challenger. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. I don't k know much at all about Terry. Do you think Obama will actually debate him? n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:37 AM Response to Reply #148 |
152. Maybe once, for a laugh. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #138 |
179. Don't forget this guy running to challenge Obama for the Democratic Primary... |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
144. circle d baby! |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
153. Will the Possible Challenger be a Corporate CEO. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
154. excellent! we must finally realize: |
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SharksBreath (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #154 |
156. I get it. Obama supporters support Obama |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #156 |
181. +1 n/t |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #156 |
263. i don't get what you're saying. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
174. I stand with the California Progressive Caucus |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
176. Obama doesn't need the progressive vote. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #176 |
236. The Progressive Wing is the conscience of the Democratic Party. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #236 |
291. Deleted message |
LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
182. The Democratic Party may purge itself of it's left wing. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
189. WARNING to California Democratic Party: If you dump the |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
190. I stand with the Progressive Caucus and I won't be bullied or shamed into mindlessly |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
198. Great news! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
202. I STAND with the California Progressive Caucus, |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
205. Good Riddance, we need to be united or it's President Perry nt |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #205 |
238. The percentage of California grass-roots activists who are fed up |
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chowder66 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
207. Welcome President Perry or Bachman ..... |
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tropicanarose (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
209. I agree with all of the things outlined by the Progressive Caucus, but NO WAY would a prog. WIN. |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
210. Alen Grayson/Al Franken NT |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
215. wrote and told them where they can shove thier rightwing values |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. I sent a little note..... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #215 |
228. Thanks for the link, Meow Mix n/t |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #215 |
295. They heard from me -- |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
227. I guess they have reached a point where why pretend. |
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John Agar (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
251. Like it or not, running a primary opponent is part of the Democratic process. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
253. Could this |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #253 |
267. Perhaps you should show us the "nonsense"... |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #267 |
286. Why don't you just say |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #286 |
290. Because, |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #290 |
296. Are you suggesting |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #253 |
270. Truth is nonsensical now? |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
254. That is a resolution passed by the |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
256. Self mutulation doesn't sound like a real healthy attitude |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
257. OMG. thank you, thank you so much for alerting on this. nt |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
261. The party makes it more and more clear that it's anything but progressive... |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
262. That is so sad. Usually progressives like alternate viewpoints. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
273. Bring back the LIBERAL Party! |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
276. The party doesn't want to limit Obama's ability to govern ??? |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-14-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
284. Way to stifle decent CDP. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-15-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
292. Hey, it's a Big Tent Party.....unless...you're (EEK!) TOO Liberal. |
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