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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:08 AM
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Feds Depict Deliberate Plot WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576073933149112002.html


PHOENIX, Ariz.—Federal prosecutors are assembling a case against suspected killer Jared Lee Loughner that portrays him as a man with psychological problems who was nonetheless competent enough to plot an assassination.


Associated Press
An undated photo released by the Pima County Sheriff's Office showing shooting suspect Jared Loughner.

Mr. Loughner appeared Monday in federal court—his head shaved, shackled at the waist and dressed in a beige jail jumpsuit—to hear the government's charges of murder and attempted murder against him.

Federal prosecutors will try to show that Mr. Loughner planned the Saturday attack that killed six people, gravely wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D., Ariz) and injured 13 others.

During the hearing, Magistrate Judge Lawrence O. Anderson asked Mr. Loughner whether he understood the charges, which could carry the death penalty. "Yes, I understand," he replied in a loud voice.

Mr. Loughner was assigned two federal public defenders, including Judy Clarke, who had represented Theodore Kaczynski, the so-called Unabomber, as well as Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui. She stood beside Mr. Loughner (pronounced LOFF-ner) at the hearing, frequently resting her hand on his shoulder.

Investigators are still trying to piece together the events leading to Saturday's shooting. Mr. Loughner tried that morning to buy bullets at a Wal-Mart store but was turned away, and then purchased some at another Wal-Mart, say people familiar with the matter, who relayed the preliminary findings of law-enforcement officials.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:13 AM
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1. I think it is time for us (in America) to say that people that commit political assassinations
have psychological problems of one form or another depending on environment.
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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:15 AM
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2. +1000 Amen.......
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rapturedbyrobots Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:49 AM
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3. would you make the same excuse for anyone that kills over:
race
gender
class
money
etc...
etc...
etc...

he understands the crime, the charges, and the penalty. its not our place to try to understand his logic. people do crazy and violent things ALL THE TIME. good luck trying to decide which ones are crazy and which are just stupid/corrupt.

independent of his mental state, the political philosophy that he adopted...that of the patriot movement is very very dangerous and very very real. until that is dealt with, there will be another mcveigh/loughner
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:21 PM
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5. Excuse!? Please, don't be so transparent.
Say what you really want to say. :eyes:
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 06:32 AM
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4. People who shoot people
have psychological problems of one form or another. The fact that they have shot people is sufficiently diagnostic in any case.

This however does not equate to being some measure of innocent.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:22 PM
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6. Who said he was innocent? No one here in this OP.
So would you include cops in that group? They sometimes have to shoot people...that doesn't mean they have mental issues.

I stand by my statement and laugh at the weak responses so far.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:27 PM
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7. Why did the courtroom sketch artist give him hair?
If his head was shaved, why sketch in hair? did they give him a wig:)
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