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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:12 PM Original message |
The end of Empire... we have crossed another step in it |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. The political atmosphere is like that of the 1850s. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. It already is, less blood, but it already is |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. War between the Koreas is "practically imminent"... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. The truth is that when George Bush was fighting two wars |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yep, historians will place it at the moment |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Iraq was the final nail in the coffin (with the AfPak fiasco running a |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. I concur with your analysis regarding hard power |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The tea party comment comes from the how they love |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Oh, I see regarding TP. But I wasn't talking about rebels in Afghanistan... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah that is funny |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Alan Greenspan. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yep... and as I said the dynamic is very predictable |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That makes a lot of sense on the exceptionalism. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Exceptionalism is an imperial characteristic |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. And the Romans always claimed they went to war in "self defense". |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And spain went to save souls who were brought to Christ |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. ugh |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Folly has a price. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Yep, and we are about to pay for it |
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zappaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
15. not to mention |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
18. I'm quite ready to see the empire end. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Trust me the pain will not be fun |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Oh, I know that, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. We will need to stay optimistic |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. I'm reminded of the United Kingdom post 1945, when the UK had |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Thanks. that is another good analogy |
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