"Round Table of the Left"/ Kinda Kool Discussion amongst University Professors about Obama...

[KoKo]

It's gotten lots of TWEETS to our Dem Web Sites..

http://coreyrobin.com/2011/08/01/572/

[Whisp]

1. Corey Robin: what a liar, and/or weak minded idiot

'''Though it’s true that Obama has wanted cuts to entitlement programs for some time, he doesn’t get them in the first phase of the deal, and in the second phase, assuming the trigger mechanism kicks in, Social Security remains off-limits.''''

[KoKo]

2. Excuse me...What are YOU Talking about?

:shrug:

[Whisp]

8. provide a quote of Obama saying he wants to cut entitlements.

not what other people THINK he wants to do, or pretend to know what he is planning, right from Obama's lips. I don't ever recall him saying anything of the sort.

or maybe he's getting confused with the Cuts to Medicare Providers.

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on edit:
as I thought, you can't because There Is None.

[KoKo]

10. What are you talking about? This is a link to a discussion by Professors...not some article

about entitlements. :shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. The statement you quoted is absolutely factual

There were no cuts at all to Social Security in the first part of the deal.

"assuming the trigger mechanism kicks in" means that the Joint Committee can't come to an agreement or get a bill passed in Congress, in which case, the enforcement that "kicks in" DOES, in fact exempt Social Security from any cuts whatsoever.

I didn't read the rest of the piece, but if that's what you're calling a lie, you're wrong, and Professor Robin is correct.

[fascisthunter]

4. and what about that statement isn't true?

maybe you are the liar, lying to yourself about what is really going on.

[Exilednight]

5. Your comment says more about you than it does about Mr Robin. n/t

[KoKo]

6. I think many DU'ers will like this Round Table Discussion...and if you don't have time..

you can Bookmark and go back like I did for later.

[paulk]

7. interesting discussion

thanks for posting...

[KoKo]

9. Thanks for your reply... Don't know what the stuff is above...thought

some DU'ers would like the discussion..

[Raksha]

11. K & R - I started reading that earlier. It's long but definitely worth reading.

Even though the discussion basically boils down to a debate about whether Obama is just weak and a capitulator vs. whether he's been working for the other side all along, it's actually a lot more nuanced than that. It brings up other factors, such as the famous Beltway bubble or "village" mindset, that most of us know about but tend to forget in these polarized debates.