Pushing for more trade deals as per Obama now...ugh. n/t

[OhioChick]

[eleny]

1. That was painful

kr

[OhioChick]

2. It most certainly was n/t

[eleny]

3. As I sit here and ponder it I wonder if that was all an act, too

FFS, people out here in the country are going to suffer mightily in the year to come. Government workers all over the country are going to be out of work when the cuts begin. And working class people are going to lose their jobs with no hope of unemployment benefit extensions should they expire before another job is found.

This is a sad day for America. Obama can wear his sad sack face. But I'm beginning to think he wanted this outcome. And that ticks me off to no end.

[OhioChick]

4. I couldn't agree with you more....

Things are bad now....just wait. Things are going to get much, much worse.

Many in my neck of the woods are pissed off with the Dems and Obama. Never saw any of this coming under a Dem President.

[eleny]

6. "Never saw any of this coming under a Dem President."

Yeah, for sure. He campaigned as a Dem.

I marched against the war during Johnson's administration as well as Nixon's. So, to me, nobody is off limits for criticism. I donated to O's campaign and voted for him. It was then his turn to deliver. I never expected a shit sandwich with my fries.

[OhioChick]

13. This "deal" gave the poor and middle class shit sandwiches all the way around n/t

[nc4bo]

5. I guess we're all tapped out and business community needs to look outside

the U.S. to find customers.

I guess. Made sense when the thought came. Sounds good any how.

[eleny]

7. And where the heck are they going to find those customers?

Europe? Africa? I don't think so.

They just squeeze and gouge instead of making sure that our boats rise along with theirs.

[LiberalLoner]

8. I know this sounds like a cliche but I really think it's time for workers of the world to unite. n/t

[eleny]

10. That's the plain truth

The irony is that as we collectively lose buying power we affect the lives of the big money boys where they live. They're engineering that themselves.

[readmoreoften]

19. +1 And we better do it quick.

[nc4bo]

11. Are you a Star Trek fan? If so, there's an episode called The Planet Killer or Doomsday Machine...

Unregulated capitalism reminds me of that planet killer.

Just consuming everything in site, including people. That thing just traveled the galaxies eating everything in sight for fuel probably forever until the last planet was destroyed.

The good guys won in that episode. I'm not so sure how we'll end up.

[LiberalLoner]

12. Yes, I remember that episode! The cornucopia looking thing! n/t

[nc4bo]

16. You got it! nt

[eleny]

17. I remember that episode!

[nc4bo]

22. It's a classic for sure.

All of them are :) - wish they'd start showing them on tv again.

[CleanGreenFuture]

14. A new rising middle class in China, India maybe?

[LiberalLoner]

15. But if there is a middle class in those countries, won't the rich just buy the

politicians there to make sure the middle class is destroyed, too?

[eleny]

18. But China's rise depends on our buying power

I've read articles about demonstrations over there because of cutbacks in factory production linked to less demand. We're all connected now. Their boats can only rise if we keep buying what the manufacture. And our buying power appears to be on life support.

[nc4bo]

20. Something better than nothing? Take the ride until the wheels fall off?

What was so great about that other trade agreement, NAFTA? Who really benefited from that?

Hope someone can chime in and give their thoughts to your question, I'm curious too.

[eleny]

23. When he talks more trade deals like NAFTA it reminds me of Repubs wanting more tax cuts

They keep chasing bad ideas that we know won't work. I guess it's hard facing up to who they answer to. It's not to us.

[CleanGreenFuture]

24. Aren't we tapped out anyways? What good are consumers who are maxed out or plain broke?

[readmoreoften]

21. China and India can only profit from exploiting workers. They can't both have a well paid workforce

and rising profits. They are in a catch 22. If their national capitalists get richer their working class gets poorer. If their wc gets raises, their elite loses profit.

[eleny]

25. The thirst for rising profits at a fast pace is what makes the world economy a house of cards

[Karmadillo]

9. Are there any estimates for what the net gain of jobs in the US will be?

nt

[bvar22]

26. I'm still waiting for all those High Paying Jobs gains...

...the hucksters promised under NAFTA.
I can NOT believe that someone is STILL trying to sell those Same Old Lies with a Straight Face!
They didn't even TRY to repackage it.


Ross was RIGHT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls&feature=player_embedded