Actions Mr. President, and at this point I do not expect you to fight for squat

[nadinbrzezinski]

ONE MORE STEP AND THE COUNTRY GETS IT1

OK,, OK what will make you give the hostage up?

[Recursion]

1. "Actions" is a pretty vague and meaningless thing to call for

What do you have in mind specifically? Presidents don't actually "do" much.

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[gateley]

3. I think he fights more than it appears to us, although I agree

he often doesn't fight hard enough.

When he DOES get a concession, he doesn't crow about it a la Boehner, and we only learn about it when someone points it out, but those instances never seem to get much recognition.

[jeff47]

26. He'd have to actually get a concession first. (nt)

[eleny]

4. Yeah, I thought he was going to fight for us in this phase - not "the next phase"

I guess I missed a chess move along the way.

[tridim]

5. He's saying what you and others say he never says.

And then you blame the wrong person for the gridlock created by the other political party.

Taxing the rich and more jobs are the President's top priorities. These goals are the last priority of the entire GOP.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Actions, he can give a mean speach, we want actions...

not words.

See how that works?

[tridim]

9. EVERYBODY wants action. Including myself and the President.

See how that works?

Do you want him to actually build a bridge while he's talking?

[jeff47]

25. If the President wanted actions, he'd take some

Instead, all he does is capitulate or hide behind Congress.

[Recursion]

14. No, I have no idea what concretely you mean by "actions"

And I'd be interested in hearing. What, specific "action" do you want him to take?

[me b zola]

6. I think he will continue to fight for things

...just not Democratic principles. He'll continue to fight for Wall Street.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. These are the New Democratic principles, the third way principles.

[haikugal]

12. Bingo!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. Thank you. :)

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. That's easy for him, fighting for Wall Street. He seems more than willing to do so.

:shrug:

[Whisp]

8. huh?

geezus

[nc4bo]

10. Sure wish he'd find the time to address our undocumented worker issues.

He keeps talking about construction workers out of work because of the housing market slump. Well, at least where I live, there is no housing market slump, homes are going up like mushrooms and selling like there's a firesale. The problem is, I don't think most of the labor pool is here legally and although it's not their fault, it is the fault of the contractors who employ them.

Plenty of neighbors out of work, HVAC, roofers, painters, carpet and flooring, etc. but if you go to any of the top 10 housing developments going up, the crews are entirely Mexican, no work for the locals.

Everybody has a right to earn a living and those who want to should but when contractors hire crews of people who are not paid fairly or treated humanly and are a source of cheap, uncomplaining labor because they work under the radar, we're all doomed until the problem is addressed.

The problem needs to be seriously addressed. It's what's fair for them and us.

[uppityperson]

13. unrec for "at this point I do not expect you to fight for squat".

thanks

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Ok let me amend me, I expect him to figght for the Third Way

Better?

[uppityperson]

19. I am not familiar with that term. thanks

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Goggle up third way.

[uppityperson]

21. google up just tell me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
Third Way may refer to:
Third Way (centrism), a political philosophy
Third Position, a nationalist political philosophy
Third Way (India), a socio-economic philosophy
The Third Way, a 1998 book by British sociologist Anthony Giddens

Political parties

Third Way (France)
Third Way (Israel)
Third Way (Palestinian Authority)
Third Way (UK)
Ulster Third Way, a Northern Ireland branch of the UK party
Direction (the Third Way), a Slovakian political party
Civil movements

The Third Way community Belarusian civil movement
Other meanings

Modern usage



Anthony Giddens, pictured, is a key proponent of Third Way theory
The term was later used by politicians in the 1990s who wished to incorporate Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan's projects of economic deregulation, privatization, and globalization into the mainstream centre-left political parties.
In the last decade the Third Way can be defined as:
"something different and distinct from liberal capitalism with its unswerving belief in the merits of the free market and democratic socialism with its demand management and obsession with the state. The Third Way is in favour of growth, entrepreneurship, enterprise and wealth creation but it is also in favour of greater social justice and it sees the state playing a major role in bringing this about. So in the words of... Anthony Giddens of the LSE the Third Way rejects top down socialism as it rejects traditional neo liberalism."
— Report from the BBC, 1999<7>

Third Way Magazine
Third Way (think tank), D.C. based Think Tank

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Yep, also called neoliberalism

And he is fighting for THAT.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. He doesn't have to fight for squat. He got what he wanted. nt

[FrenchieCat]

23. oooh!

Bust!

Hear that Mr. President? The snarkies are gonna pay you back
from the day you were inaugurated till the time till they
snark you out of office!

Now that's action! :applause:

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[jeff47]

27. What an excellent way to handle voters who's enthusiasm has been crushed by triangulation.

You sure know how to get those highly-motivated and enthusiastic supporters to do absolutely nothing. Great political strategy!

[FrenchieCat]

28. People who are motivated are not going to become unmotivated

based on anything that I say here at DU! I dare say that folks' enthusiasm and motivation for being politically active should be based on their earnest aims at promoting and safekeeping the programs/policies they hold dear, not what someone said on the Internet...otherwise, perhaps what motivates them is bullshit that means nothing....which is very possible of some here, considering the child-like mentality currently prevailing.

I learned that when I get knocked down by life in one way or another, my choice is to either stay down and moan and groan like a victim, or pick my ass back up and start anew doing what needs doing that will prove most effective by next election.

By next election, the correct goal is to vote in as many progressives as possible, and to defeat as many Republicans as possible, period.

Attempts to defeat this President will not give progressives what they want, and yet what I read here is nothing but that. It is a dumb strategy that will only bring on much more despair than any one of us could believe possible.

[jeff47]

29. The problem is not what you're saying. The problem is the White House is saying the same thing. nt