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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:48 AM
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McConnell confirms that GOP will continue to hold America hostage over debt limit
(Another legacy of the Barack Obama 'unable to stand up to GOP' presidency):

MCCONNELL: It set the template for the future. In the future, Neil, no president—in the near future, maybe in the distant future—is going to be able to get the debt ceiling increased without a re-ignition of the same discussion of how do we cut spending and get America headed in the right direction. I expect the next president, whoever that is, is going to be asking us to raise the debt ceiling again in 2013, so we’ll be doing it all over.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:49 AM
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1. Yes, I know.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:49 AM
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2. Be careful what you wish for dumbass
yup
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:51 AM
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3. Cue Gomer Pyle: "Surprise, surprise, surprise"
Not.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:51 AM
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4. Well played, Mr. Obama.
So glad we can look forward to repeating this fiasco every year, and giving away what little wasn't surrendered this time around.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:54 AM
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5. this is how they will dismantle the social welfare program of the New Deal & Great Society
and we can thank a spineless democratic president for this.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:57 AM
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7. That's the only way it could get done -- with Democratic support.
It's collusion, plain and simple. Obama got exactly the result he wanted.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:57 AM
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8. Incrementally! Thanks to an incrementalist.
They can call it incremental all they want. It's the same old excremental underneath.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:56 AM
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6. "It set the template for the future." That's why I said they HAD to be fought not appeased yet again
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:58 AM
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9. That only applies if they keep Congress
Shouldn't this be an indication of how much we want them voted out?

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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:04 AM
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11. It applies regardless
Sure we want them voted out, but the issue is getting someone that will stand up to these idiots. We don't have that right now. McConnell knows this, and now they smell blood in the water.

Taking hostages is going to be their entire playbook from now on. That's why you don't negotiate with terrorists.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 06:19 PM
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22. It is not a question of standing up to them, it is a question of not having them in Congress
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:16 PM
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17. We will not take Congress.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-11 02:16 PM by jeff47
The only way you take Congress is with excited partisans. It's why we took Congress in 2006/2008. It's why we lost the House and several Senate seats in 2010. Triangulation from people who ran on 'hope and change' has destroyed the enthusiasm of the base.

In 2012 the House is completely out of reach. Holding the Senate will be extremely difficult. Heck, keeping the White House is going to be difficult. Obama's base may or may not vote themselves, but the lack of enthusiasm means they aren't going to bring many votes along with them. And the White House stupidly handcuffed itself to "deficit reduction", so they can't do anything to improve the economy. No president (or his party if term-limited) has been re-elected with an economy this bad. And the moronic debt ceiling deal guarantees a bad economy in 2012.

During the primary, I poo-pooed the Hillary supporters who fretted about Obama's lack of experience. I was wrong. He has no idea how to lead. Only how to deliver a speech that has the appearance of leadership.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 06:20 PM
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23. Better not give up already
This sounds like that which Republicans would hope for. I see no justification for being so negative about an election more than a year away if one is a Democrat.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:48 PM
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25. All they really need is 41 Senators.
We'll have a tough time keeping the Senate majority. We won't have 60 Senators unless the Republican ticket is Michele Bachmann and Charlie Sheen.

Also, even assuming that we somehow get a House majority, it would necessarily include a lot of freshman Dems from swing districts. Such Representatives, anxious to appear fiscally responsible for their re-election campaigns, might well side with the Republicans in a new debt ceiling fight.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:04 AM
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10. So THAT confirms it
McConnell has all but admitted that Obama WILL be re elected.

Because - we all know this dog and pony show would not have occured if it had been a republican president in office.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:11 AM
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12. No President ... unless of coarse, he's a Republican.
In that case, deficits don't matter.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:25 AM
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14. Nailed it
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:18 AM
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13. Full of WIN!
But not for the Democratic party.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:35 AM
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15. Obama should of let the Tea Party extremists shoot the hostage and allowed a default
Short term crisis and pain, long term healing and long term gain.

We either need a different Democrat to win the convention next year, or a new major political party because the Democratic one is turning out to be satisfied in becoming a wing of the GOP.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:22 PM
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20. Instead Obama looks weak for dealing with TERRORISTS
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lonestarlib Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 12:09 PM
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16. Debt ceiling needs to be repealed. It serves no purpose except
as a tool for extortion. It doesn't even curb spending which was its original purpose.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:19 PM
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18. When you give in to terrorists...
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:19 PM
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19. It worked the first time, why wouldn't it work again and again. It'll work every time.
I'm going to pull the pin out of this hand grenade if you don't give me what I want.
I want what I want and I want it right now.
I mean it, I'll pull the pin out.

And Obama will cave every time.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:22 PM
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21. Primary Him!!!11111
Edited on Tue Aug-02-11 02:23 PM by jpak
:D
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 06:21 PM
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24. Minor correction:
"I expect the next president, whoever that is...
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