I don't care how you feel about our President.

[Wait Wut]

Are you ready to fight to take back the House and keep the Senate? What if it means supporting a Blue Dog to ensure a Democrat takes a seat? Remember, we still have Nancy to lead them! :patriot:

(DISCLAIMER: I realize this is a two part question and I've only given you one part answers. It's a trick. Mwaaahahahaha!)

[MineralMan]

1. That very thing is my only political goal at this point.

Blue dogs vote with the Caucus most of the time. If that's all we can get in a particular district, I'll take it. Remember that these teabaggers replaced them in many of the districts they won. It's a district-by-district election. Every seat is a local race. That's easy to forget.

[Wait Wut]

6. +1

We need a permanent (highly visible) link here where we could post the names of D candidates that need support.

[Bluerthanblue]

13. Anne Mclane Kuster NH

http://www.kusterforcongress.com/

She lost to Charlie Bass by very few votes. She won't lose in 12 if we work together.

[Wait Wut]

18. I'm going to try to bookmark any links I see posted...

...and then post them at the end of the week. I'd still like to see something more permanent. My computer at work is ANCIENT and I can access very few sites and/or links, but I can copy them and email them home.

BTW...checked out her site! She sounds like someone we should get behind! Of course, I recommend everyone research all candidates before sending them money. ;-)

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[mmonk]

3. No Blue Dogs.

That dog won't hunt.

:-)

[peace frog]

4. Goody for you.

If you're looking to Nancy Pelosi to kill this deal, look again. She will go along to get along.

[Wait Wut]

11. Huh?

Where did I say Nancy was going to kill this deal? Why do you feel the need to confuse me? Did I touch you without permission?

[peace frog]

17. Cool your jets

It was not my intention to confuse you.

[Wait Wut]

20. Whew.

I'm an oldish person. You gotta be careful. I really do say things now that I don't remember 15 minutes later (one of the more entertaining side effects of a recent stroke). But...hell...this was in writing.

:P

[peace frog]

25. I'm old too, and a bit cranky on occasion

No worries. :)

[DevonRex]

21. This thread is about taking back the House and keeping the Senate.

:shrug:

[peace frog]

24. Much as I would love to see it happen

I confess to being pessimistic about the odds. Congress is a big club, and we ain't in it.

[DevonRex]

33. I feel like that too, sometimes. And then

election time rolls around and I see how truly frightening the republicans are. So I get to work all over again. :hi:

[county worker]

5. How are you going to fight? Sit at your lap top and type out a bunch of feel good slogans?

Unless there is some viable opposition to the status quo, most people will watch this election come and go from the sidelines.

People need to feel there is something real to work for not just pie in the sky hopes that those in power will change their tune!

We need a real progressive to run against Obama or it's going to be worse than 2010. I'm sure of it.


The fights will be on the local and State levels if anywhere. Washington is a lost cause.

[Township75]

7. Didn't we do what the OP suggested in 2010?

And that was worth it???

[Wait Wut]

9. That's such a beautiful response.

I don't own a laptop.

I've worked harder in the past 30+ years than you could imagine. I was active in politics in grade school.

"Viable option" would be NOT taking back the House and LOSING the Senate. How's that for "pie in the sky" (not really a "feel good" slogan, but w/e)

You aren't getting a "real Progressive" to run against Pres. Obama. A "real Progressive" couldn't win, anyway (now, that is "pie in the sky")

And, would not "local" and "state" be the House and the Senate? I wasn't aware that I could vote for the Senator of Florida. I realize they end up in Washington, but I was sure that we all had to elect our own Reps. and Senators "locally".

[county worker]

28. Good for you, we lost the House, most likely we will lose the Senate

next time, maybe even the White House. I'm proud of you for fighting but in total we are losing.


I use to think back when Bush was in the White House that if only people reached the point where they hurt enough they would rise up and fight back. Well they did in 2008. The problem was that the guy they were fighting for lied his ass off to them.

I don't hope of ever seeing something like what happened on 2008 happen again. And it isn't the fault of those who fought then. I fought so hard and spent so hard for Obama that I got invited to the inauguration and all the parties in Washington. That will never happen again.

[hfojvt]

31. I don't know about that

I seem to remember that I got invited to the inauguration, and all I donated was $50 late in the primary.

I think a lot of those inauguration invitations were sent out, knowing that very few would be cashed in, but trying to make people feel special so they would donate again.

[Wait Wut]

32. I've been let down many times.

I fought hard for Clinton's first term. Then hated him, but fought anyway for his second. Loved Carter, but...wow. Not what I had expected. Screwed up by supporting Teddy. No President has ever been 100% what I had hoped. That goes for any politician. I solved the disillusionment problem by thinking of them as my friends.

My friends drive me insane. They refuse to agree with everything I say. They change plans at the last minute and always show up late. Not only that, but I catch them lying occasionally. But, I still love them and need them. Okay, I don't "love" many politicians and don't wanna hang out with many of them, either. The comparison helped me get through it all, though. I can't make anyone do exactly what I want. All I can do is look at their good and bad qualities, weigh them and see if it's someone I want on my side.

[hfojvt]

29. here's a trick question for you

in 2010, how many incumbents got re-elected? (make sure you factor out incumbents like Jerry Moran of Kansas who got elected to the Senate and also Todd Tiahrt of Wichita who lost to Moran in the Senate primary, but whose seat remains firmly Republican.)

[Wait Wut]

36. I'm the only one in this thread...

...allowed to ask trick questions. (How's that for a non-answer!?)

I don't know. I think I heard it once, probably on Maddow, but my brain isn't retaining numbers anymore.

[hfojvt]

37. google answers it quite handily

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/reelect.php

The answer is 85% for 2010, but I doubt if they are factoring in the incumbents who voluntarily resigned, or the ones who moved up to the Senate (or like Tiahrt, tried to move up, but still their district remained in the same party. Bennett of Utah would be another example, an incumbent Senator who got defeated in the primary, but the seat, of course, stayed Republican.)

My point is that you are kinda asking people to do the impossible - to affect a Congressional, much less a Senate, election. And Republican re-districting, happening in many states, is not gonna make things any easier.

What you are talking about is certainly important, but a good Presidential candidate would go a much longer way towards helping in that regard.

[treestar]

38. There is no excuse for watching from the sidelines

None whatever. You mean you are going to sit and wait until the right candidate comes along? You are inherently depending on someone else. When I see this theme, I think that person is fodder for a crazed dictator - just so long as they have the charisma.

[Maru Kitteh]

8. Blue dog's the only dog I got.

Democrats. I will vote for them every time. In this state, I live with the enemy and therefore harbor no ridiculous delusions that Democrats and Republicans are even remotely alike.

[Wait Wut]

10. Understood. I'm in Arizona.

Although, the few Blue Dogs we've had have been damned good ones (Rep. Giffords, for instance). I agree with your last sentence, as well. I had no idea how vicious the differences were until I moved from Chicago to the reddest town in Arizona.

[valerief]

12. When is a Blue Dog a democrat????? nt

[Wait Wut]

19. Gabby Giffords.

The Blue Dog everyone hates to love. My own Anne Kirkpatrick. A true Democrat, but labeled Blue Dog.

[valerief]

34. Blue Dog means a Republican who may not be anti-abortion. nt

[Armstead]

14. Leave me alone I'm Sad

I don't think anything is going to make a difference.

Ihope this is a temporary condition.

[Wait Wut]

22. It is.

I've been there and will support anyone that needs a break.

[damntexdem]

15. I'm ready to fight to take back the House and keep the Senate.

And I WILL NOT support a Blue Dog. There are sufficient vipers around, no need to clasp them to our breasts.

[TheKentuckian]

16. No Senate seats in play and will support my decent rep.

[hyphenate]

23. Pelosi's seat is not guaranteed, and I don't think I care for

her leadership if she has participated in any kind of fraud against the Dems in this country. I don't have ANY loyalty to anyone who sold us out--period.

[Wait Wut]

26. I think it would be a mistake for Dems to not support her.

She rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but she's been a tough advocate for the American people. No, she's no genie, but I think she's done one helluva job with what she's had to work with.

[hyphenate]

30. Then she have made impeachment of GWB

on the table, not off. Dems show no balls at all, and I'm beginning to think that few of them have my best interests in mind. I come from one of the top progressive states in the country (Massachusetts), and very few people in congress arw worth the air that they breathe.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Yea, to progressives. Nay to Blue Dogs and New Democrats.

I don't vote for Republicans even if they have a (D) after their name.

[DevonRex]

35. I'll even work for blue dogs. In my state, the republicans are truly batshit crazy

with fundy religion and libertarian craziness.