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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:15 PM
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WHIP COUNT so far: House debt-limit deal
WHIP COUNT: House leaders in both parties seek votes to pass debt-limit deal
By The Hill Staff - 08/01/11 11:31 AM ET

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/174649-whip-count-house-leaders-seek-votes-to-pass-debt-limit-deal
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:18 PM
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1. There's a 1:56 PM EDT update.
Looks like quite a number of Democrats are joining the "yes" votes. I think it passes.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:21 PM
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2. I'm guessing they're
lining up who's going to vote for and against with a few emergency backups in case anyone changes their mind last second.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:33 PM
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5. Sure. In the end, I think the vote will be very close, but that will
be an artificial thing. Lots of congresspeople need to vote against this, based on their individual districts. They'll do just that, but would have voted for it if needed. There's lots of trading going on today in both parties. Not that there isn't most of the time, but this one is going to parceled out on a priority basis, letting those who need to vote a certain way do so, while others vote the other way. Both parties.

On the GOP side, the entire House leadership is voting "yes," so they'll drag along plenty. The teabaggers will vote "no," no matter what, but their numbers aren't sufficient to block this. Not eve close.

So, it will be a "bi-partisan" vote. These people all want to take their August vacation, you know...
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:25 PM
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3. I see Peter DeFazio is listed there..
solid progressive. Looks like Nancy is rounding them up.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:35 PM
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6. I'm sure she's doing some arm-twisting.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:56 PM
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7. The update in bold are responses they've gotten
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 01:57 PM by chill_wind
or construed going one way or another. Some of those D's in the bold update are in the no column
(Nadler, Jesse Jackson, Pete DeFazio, etc.) That's the way I'm reading the updates.

:shrug:

HUGE undecided list yet.


"Yes" votes updated twice while I was posting this:

House lawmakers who support deal or who will likely support it (39)

Robert Andrews (D-N.J.)

Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) – Issued statement on Sunday suggesting she will back it.

Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.)

John Boehner (R-Ohio) – Speaker working to minimize defections, but there will be plenty.

Kevin Brady (R-Texas)

Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.)

Dave Camp (R-Mich.)

Eric Cantor (R-Va.) – House majority leader expressed support in Sunday GOP conference call.

Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) -- Put out supportive statement Sunday night.

Tom Cole (R-Okla.) – A team player for the House GOP conference.

Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) – Tells Wall Street Journal new deal sounds similar to "what I voted for the other day."

Bob Dold (R-Ill.) -- Spoke out in favor of it on the floor.

Renee Ellmers (R-N.C.)

Jo Ann Emerson (R-Mo.)

Chaka Fattah (D-Pa.) – Says he will support the deal.

Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.)

Barney Frank (D-Mass.) – During appearance on "Morning Joe," Frank said he believes deal could have been worse, though he favors the military cut provisions. Asked for comment, Frank's office said he is withholding comment at this time.

Sam Graves (Mo.) – Has told local media he will vote yes.

Tim Griffin (R-Ark.)

Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) -- A yes vote.

Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) -- A yes vote.

Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) – Member of GOP leadership team.

Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) – House minority whip did not rave about bill, but sounded supportive on Monday in TV interviews.

Mike Kelly (R-Pa.)

Pete King (R-N.Y.)

Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) – Gave deal positive reviews in interview with Politico.

James Lankford (R-Okla.) -- Says he will vote yes

Donald Manzullo (R-Ill.)

Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) – Expressed support during GOP conference call on Sunday night.

Gary Miller (R-Calif.) -- A yes vote.

Bill Owens (D-N.Y.) – Tells Watertown (N.Y.) Daily Press he's likely to vote yes.

Scott Rigell (R-Va.) -- Inclined to support deal, according to Virginia-Pilot.

Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.)

Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)

Mike Simpson (R-Idaho)

Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) – Head of the Democratic National Committee; she could play key role in whipping effort.

Allen West (R-Fla.) – Leaning yes.

Steve Womack (R-Ark.)

Bill Young (R-Fla.)


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House lawmakers who will vote no or are leaning no (20)

Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) – White House hopeful announced Sunday she is a no. She voted no on Boehner bill.

Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) -- A no.

G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.) -- Leaning no.

Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) – Possible Senate hopeful said he is a probable "no" vote. He voted no on Boehner bill.

Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) – Head of the Congressional Black Caucus called it a "sugar-coated Satan sandwich."

Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) – Said on the House floor there are "no jobs" in the package. Voted against stimulus and has not been shy in criticizing President Obama. Said Monday he would vote no.

Donna Edwards (D-Md.) – On Sunday, she tweeted, “Nada from million/billionaires; corp tax loopholes aplenty; only sacrifice from the poor/middle class? Shared sacrifice, balance? Really?”

Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) -- A strong no.

Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) – Says he is leaning against and would like more time to consider bill.

Raϊl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) – Co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus has ripped deal, saying on July 31 that it was crafted for “right-wing radicals.”

Tom Graves (R-Ga.) – Voted no on Boehner bill. Will vote no again.

Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) – Has told his party he'll oppose the deal.

Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) – Firm no. Voted no on Boehner bill. But aide says conservative won't whip against measure.

Jeff Landry (R-La.) -- A no vote.

Connie Mack (R-Fla.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) – On MSNBC, Nadler said 80 percent of House Democratic Caucus would reject any bill to the right of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) debt measure. Tells gaggle of reporters on Monday that he'll vote no.

Ron Paul (R-Texas) – White House hopeful expected to reject bill. He voted no on Boehner bill.

Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) – Tells reporters he is "disappointed" in the deal.

David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) – Leaning no.

Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) – “We can do better, and we have to do better,” he told CBS News. Voted no on Boehner bill.


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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:33 PM
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4. Im a little confused,, is the list in bold,, yes or nos?
some of those listed in bold are also listed in the no section below.. like DeFazio.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:02 PM
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9. I think those are just responses either way. The "Yes" list
is being actively updated as they get them right below all that, if you watch.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:22 PM
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12. got it thanks.. Defazio is actually a "no" vote..
I read it wrong the first time.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:13 PM
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10. I count 8 Dem "yes" so far. n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:14 PM
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11. Dem votes will pass this in the house.
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