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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:51 PM Original message |
Abolish Medicare Part D? Just heard that the President would be in favor? |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great idea! Abolish it and allow Medicaid to negotiate same savings on prescriptions |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. +1 |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Medicaid? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Are you confusing Medicare and Medicaid? Please explain. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. argh - i meant Medicare... For some reason I get dyslexic and type "medicaid? when I mean "medicare" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Exactly! This plan has the potential to be a huge win for America and Democrats. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Dems know where the republican fat that needs to be cut lies nt |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. it would have seniors in an uproar |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree. It doesn't have to be abolished though, but |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Part D was a giveaway to insurance companies. |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. people use to buy their drugs overseas |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think a lot of people would be pissed, and hurt. Perhaps if they allow drugs from Canada that |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
69. if they were able to negotiate group discounts it would be a win. |
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katmondoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes Yes Yes |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is a terrible idea. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Maybe it's just me, but I think a measure... |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:05 PM Original message |
I will let my extremely liberal 80 year parents who depend on it know. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. A poison pill, as it were? |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No, I'm just one of the DU'ers... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Oh, one of THOSE smart-alecs. ;-) |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Alas! I have been found out! n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Yeah, it was real smart of us to think that way right before re-districting. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I thought that the reform act only slighty changes the donut hole. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The donut hole was by far the biggest problem in the plan. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. One assumes your folks are also drifting on a sea of cash |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. My mother is dirt poor and I paid all of her donut hole expenses for her breast |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Not really - it absolutely has to be changed to allow |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. You are correct. I was addressing this more from the patient's perspective in terms |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. cbayer, NO one on Medicare qualifies for Medicaid. Not 'most' |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Low income people over 65 with low incomes and no assets |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Links - dual eligibles ... |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. This is not correct, Bluenorthwest. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. My 96 y.o. MIL who lives in a nursing home does. My Medicare handbook |
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KittysRfuzzy (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. It is still unfunded |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Hello. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Deleted message |
RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. A major problem is they can not negotiate for the cheapest price. It was a giveaway |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. ... to Billy Tauzin who 'found' a lucrative job as top lobbyist for Big Pharma after leaving Cong. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. These guys are slipperier than eels as they slide around from one money maker to the |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. It would certainly save money for patients. Part D is corporate welfare |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. How would it save money for patients? There is NO other provision in Medicare |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. You are correct. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. But you would agree it needs to be fixed. ? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Fixed yes. Abolished no. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. How about a whole new program - Medicare Part M (for medications) |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Medicare part D is already just for Prescriptions. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Part D is too poorly constructive to really be fixed. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. One small correction. Part D does not apply to medicaid patients at all. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Question - |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Medicaid is administered at the state level with federal funding support. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. From Wikipedia - (sorry) |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I was not aware of that and thank you for the information. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Just adding another link about this here. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. So, can we agree that the issue with Part D is the billing? |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. DURHAM D, I think we are on the same team here. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Just one point I wish to make here. What you say is true about dual eligibles,but straight |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Well that would be interesting. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Not exactly. Although 50% of the funds come from the feds, the states determine |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Thanks. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Above my grade pay at this point. I just don't know the answers to these questions, |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. We will have to just disagree on this. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. William - |
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green prol (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
74. Medicare for all would do it. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Shout it from the hills, because based on what I am reading here, many people |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Then it needs to be modified to beneift the patient. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Totally agree, but abolishing it without something better is not an option, imo. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. It would have to go WITH Medicare drug-shopping |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Ask seniors who can't afford their drugs now. And it won't just be Part D. |
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LaValle (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Right Take More from the Poor And keep giving the rich Tax Breaks nt |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
27. My Mom depends on Part D for her meds |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. I would like to know where you heard Obama is for dumping Part D. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. You never put any links. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. are you suggesting the OP is a shit stirrer? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. I have no comment. |
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Roselma (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
44. I agree...I've been helping a friend with her Medicare, and it |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. very well said |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I agree with much of what you say here. But until medications are included under |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
77. the donut hole |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. I see alot of talk here, does anyone know how Medicare part D works? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. It looks like several posters in this thread do. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Not to me. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Yeah, I do, I'd be dead without it (transplant) |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I agree with you. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
79. Yeah |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
60. They lied to get it passed, and Dems opposed it in droves |
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Drahthaardogs (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
72. Killing it would be great! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
78. I hate Part D but you have to figure out how seniors will get their medicine or |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
84. I opposed that bill when it passed |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. What a profoundly bad idea. |
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