43 Senate Republicans oppose Dem debt bill

[steve2470]

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Forty-three Senate Republicans say they oppose Democratic leader Harry Reid's bill to cut spending and raise the nation's borrowing authority.

In a letter released Saturday, the Republican senators said the bill "completely fails" to address the nation's fiscal imbalance and relies on gimmicks to cut spending. Reid's measure would raise the debt limit by up to $2.4 trillion.

At the start of an unusual Saturday session, Reid said he was willing to listen to Republican ideas to make his bill better because time was running short. The Treasury Department has said the nation's debt limit must be raised by Tuesday or there could be a government financial default.

[aquart]

1. So he watered down his nearly worthless bill and STILL...

[Doctor_J]

17. Once you start giving in to terrorists, there is no stopping them

his first step backwards sealed his fate. The only thing we need to find out is whether heWANTED a Repuke bill, or tried to hold them off was was completely incompetent.

[dana_b]

2. sigh....

they will want the austerity measures put back in before they will agree to anything. Then the Dems will be forced to swallow this pos in order to avoid default. Same old story - and we will be f***ed.

[sasha031]

3. here is a link to their names

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/43-republican-senators-announce-opposition-to-reid-debt-limit-plan/2011/07/30/gIQArEXcjI_blog.html?wprss=2chambers

[Doctor_J]

4. You're seeing the death throes of the Democratic Party

They can't get anything done, even with a majority, and when something ceases to have any function, Darwin predicts that it will soon cease to exist.

Taking the country back from Hate Radio would be very messy, and I frankly don't think Americans have it in them any more, if they ever did. In 18 months we're going to have a Repuke president, House, senate, courts, and media.

welcome to hell.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Actually this is the death throes of the two party system

How we will get from here to there is hell... But that is what you are seeing.

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[bluestate10]

13. Typical Progressive. Give up without mounting a fight. Has Wisconsin taught nothing? nt

[Doctor_J]

14. Yes, WI has taught us that the Repukes can scrub voter rolls

and make it nearly impossible for Dem constituencies to vote, and no one will do anything about it.

At some point we need to wake up to reality of what we're fighting against, instead of cheering setbacks and calling them victories.

[Amalea dQ]

5. Let's make Congress do this first!

I am trying to find information as to the pay raises Congress voted for themselves during the GW Bush administration. If any of you have a listing of the House and Senate bills during the period, I would greatly appreciate a listing of them. I am particularly interested in how each Representative and Senator voted on their respective bills during the period. I, as a taxpayer, am not inclined to reward an abject failure of leadership with pay raises. Taking this country from a 200 plus billion dollar surplus to a multi-trillion dollar deficit in eight years is precisely such a failure. Frankly, I believe the policies of indebting and subsequently impoverishing the nation was planned for and done on purpose in order to starve social security, medicare and medicaid. Others may not believe in the purpose of those programs, but I believe they are and have been useful, necessary, and in keeping with the Preamble of the Constitution as it relates to "promote the General Welfare" of the nation. I am a veteran to took the same oath as the President, members of Congress, and the Supreme Court. To "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic". I believe that the first three words of the Constition do not read "We the Corporate Industrial Complexes", and that those who do are the domestic enemies of our Constitution. Unlike those who sit in the temples of our government, I will keep my vow. Corporations are not people. Never have been, never will be.

I know that Congress gave themselves pay raises for 7 out of the 8 years of the GW Bush administration, while "We the People" were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs monthly. I'm calling on everyone to call their favorite congressional target and demand that they pay back every cent of their pay raises AND return their salaries for ALL of Federal Government back to the year 2000. If government is spending too much then government should participate in the pain they are responsible for inflicting.


Can anyone out there help me obtain the information I seek?

[Doctor_J]

6. .

www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/97-1011.pdf

I don't have a clue what good you think this is going to do

[Amalea dQ]

16. I want to start a movement that will focus on government's pay

I don't know if it will work, but if we can overload their phone lines.... and/or write them a letter letting them know that failure to reverse their unearned pay increases and cutting the Federal payroll first will cost them their cushy jobs.... maybe we can make a difference. It's simple.... Repubs who are responsible for the deficit and now hypocritically demand cuts to government spending get to walk their talk and prove it by actually cutting government spending beginning with their own.

[asjr]

7. The Republican Party is now

halfway to taking over the country. Their hatred for the black man as president is something they can't live with. Their desire for complete power is known.

[maryellen99]

10. They are traitors

I don't want to this to happen but I will not be shocked if there is an attempt on the POTUS's life.

[asjr]

12. I have worried about that for a long time.

[Doctor_J]

15. Probably no need to worry about that any more

They can run him from office legally, and in the mean time he's doing almost nothing to stop their drive toward fascism. He also provides a target for blame for all of their destruction.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Yep that 1859 feeling again.

The most dysfunctional congress since.