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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:18 PM
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Sure, We are the "fringe"
Poll: Washington says tax the rich to cut deficit


As Washington, D.C., is embroiled in the debt ceiling drama this weekend, a poll released this week in this, the other Washington, showed people here heavily favor raising taxes to deal with the deficit and don’t want to see any cuts to popular big government programs.

The SurveyUSA/KING5 sampling showed:

73 percent of people in the Evergreen State say taxes on the wealthy would be acceptable as part of any deal.
72 percent say it would be unacceptable to make cuts to Medicare.
76 percent say reductions to Social Security as part of a budget bargain would be wrong.
The survey of 920 people in the state of Washington was taken July 27. The margin of error varied by question, but was not higher than 3 percent.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/07/29/poll-washington-says-tax-the-rich-to-cut-deficit/

The 70 percent fringe.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:21 PM
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1. I'm part of the Washington "fringe" majority.
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:27 PM
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2. well...
just because we are a large group doesn't mean we haven't been marginalized and put out as a fringe group.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:07 AM
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21. It's getting very crowded
under the damned bus. Maybe we should form a political party.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:28 PM
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3. Seventy Percent Fringe. Love the name. nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:34 PM
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4. As clothing it could get a person arrested...
70% fringe....I think Cher had a dress like that.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:08 AM
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See through, as I recall
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 09:09 AM by pscot
Just like our president.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:34 PM
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5. I believe the best thing Obama can do now is to
continue to ask us *fringers* to keep up the pressure w/ phone calls/faxes/tweets/letters etc. Whatever you think of him, I think this was a great move on the community organizer's part. Eventually the media will HAVE to acknowledge what they don't want to acknowledge because it will be too obvious to continue to obfuscate the pushback. The bullshit happening now is motivating indies and reasonable repubs. They can't ignore us forever -- Change may not happen in MY lifetime, but Obama DID advise and promise that change would be *hard* and wouldn't happen overnight.

I know ... there are alot of folks out there who will flame this, but I will NEVER believe that Obama's intentions have been bad intentions. Period. Is he weak? Arguable ... Is he a repuke in a cloaking device? No way, no how.

Just one woman's opinion.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:47 PM
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6. They can ignore our faxes, letters, calls, and emails.
They'd have a tougher time ignoring a virtual barricade of their offices and studios, general strikes, making traffic a cluster fuck, the inability to get goods and services, constant efforts to storm buildings on Wall Street, masses sitting in on banks, and laying siege on the state houses.

As for Obama, I'm not God to weigh the hearts of people. I see his appointments, know his proposals, hear of his deals, and his strategies are clear.

The appointments are telling. Nobody on my side would take up with Alan Simpson, Bowles, Pete Peterson, Timmeh, Summers, Rubin, Gates, and certainly not Arne Duncan. Arne Duncan tells me all I need to know.

No one on my side would allow BP to run amok like this clown has.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:33 PM
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10. While I understand most of your points,
my loyalty keeps swinging for and against ... At this very moment, I'm pro Obama (that changes about every 3-1/2 minutes -- time to step away from the computer!!) I'm pro Obama because there is such a clusterfuck of attacks going on our democracy that even the strongest progressive imaginable could start falling behind (?) schedule. I believe at the very most, he screwed up a while back and never got his footing again ...

I don't believe his strategies are *clear,* however, since I believe timing is everything when dealing with these freaks.

I never understood the appointments, myself ... I don't understand the whole BP thing, other than continued weak regulations.

Lame, I know ...

I just....WANT...TO BELIEVE AGAIN!!! (sniff sniff)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:27 PM
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8. Obama's Plan was BRILLIANT.
The Kabuki between Boehner & Obama was brilliantly played.
Obama NOW has "Democrats" calling Washington demanding Obama's "Compromise Plan"
that slashes Government Spending during a Recession & Jobs Crisis,
and "Trims" Social Security.

He actually has Democrats calling Washington SUPPORTING cuts to Social Security!!!
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:50 PM
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14. Don't know about you,
but I didn't call/fax/email/write the Congresscritters to accept Obama's compromise plan. I called and told them, nicely, that they were FUCKING IDIOTS. No, I don't like the capitulation, but I beg you to prove you were a fly on that wall when ...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:15 AM
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23. Don't consider this a flame. But why did he appoint Immelt?
Why did he appoint Summers?

Why did he appoint Geithner?

Why did he appoint Simpson?

Why did he appoint Bowles?

Why did he appoint Holder? (Holder was also a Reagan appointee)

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:00 PM
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7. We're a center left country run by a center right media and far right politicians.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:47 AM
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18. Bingo.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:24 AM
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24. You are correct.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 09:25 AM by Enthusiast
There is a HUGE media effort to inform people that they are not left of center. And people have bought into this masquerade. But where they stand on the issues is the real test.

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:31 PM
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9. Washington State is thinking like a "community" rather than a pill-box entity
Pill-boxes can be seen all over Europe, but nobody lives in them.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:34 PM
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11. Thank you!
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:36 PM
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12. Politicians that don't give a damn about
us or the economy for anyone but the top 1% don't listen to polls.

Elections are so rigged with money that popular opinion and decent mean even less today than they use to.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:39 PM
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13. No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.
No compromises for you.

Nice, eh?
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:54 PM
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15. The majority of people in every political group want tax increases as part
of a debt solution, except may be Freepers. So what is your point?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:58 PM
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16. ie, 70% of the House is represented by 30% of the idiots.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:05 PM
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17. This is how the big brain voters of Kentucky, Tenn, S. C., Georgia, etc understand it, they don't
want pay any taxes, but expect the infra-structure, services and THEIR SS and Medicare other gobermint checks not to be cut. ASSHOLES and dumb as the bag of hammers and will never they "get it." It's all about hating: gobermint spending, gun control, queers and marriage, illegal immigrates and anyone that isn't as ignorant as they are.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:48 AM
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19. They live in Wisconsin too. n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:58 AM
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20. That isn't too far from the national polls.
Even a majority of Republicans and Tea Party members are against cuts to medicare and social security.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:08 AM
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22. It's what they call the "majority fringe" get with the program.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:47 AM
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25. Clearly, they don't live in the "real' world.
:crazy:
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